Post
Topic
Board Service Discussion
Re: COINLENDERS - REMAINING DEPOSITORS
by
gaston909
on 22/11/2013, 09:08:01 UTC
I am up to here... just need to establish if Efflorescence was listed on dumbfruits old thread.

For the record, I've 494.83919957 BTC in Coinlenders and about 75 BTC in BTCInvest. They're pretty much all of my education fund there after I voluntarily dropped out of education system.
I have not settled.

In fact, I've talked to a friend at Digital Asset Transfer Authority (DATA).
http://info.datauthority.org/wordpress/founding-members/

What irks me most is that:
1. This $1 million loss may not even be genuine.
2. TF may have also been gambling after the hack: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=329136.msg3569337#msg3569337

Wait... WAIT... this guy has been gambling AFTER the hack?!?

He actually was gambling after the hack:
https://blockchain.info/address/13VXUBDBd6Jwsz7euG59BmanHEMA5EkcA1?sort=0

Notice the LuckyBit bets and the dice bet.

So, it is an important precedent for accountability, for Bitcoin/crypto's sustainability, for those who've been harmed or who will be, and for the future.  
My friend from the network also sees this is an important case in point / important precedent to set.

But we will not achieve anything if we continue "running/clucking around like amateur headless chickens" (paraphrased from conversation).

There are resources, professionals, connections, authorities, and possibilities to pursue this that I can help to connect.

[The only thing holding me back is that I've to be on-the-go/at countries probably without internet of late; so practically, I can't oversee this.]

I know some of you are thinking of pursuing individual legal actions, but really, we could be more effective with a concerted group/class actions. There are also grounds for authorities to look into this. "Every contact leaves a trace."

I've not concluded that this is a crime yet. Of course, I'd like a full settlement. But a comprehensive & honest disclosure from TF will earn compassion.  

Moving forward:

A) Who is interested to pursue something collectively (regardless of whether you've settled or not)?
1. @gaston909 -
2. @DumbFruit -
3. @cobordism (reddit)
4. @thecoinjournal -
5. @chaosfox -

6. @Efflorescence - Yes

7. (Reply with your name below/there's so many people who've voiced concern - chat with them to ask if they'd like to join the force)

B) Crowdsourced Fact-Gathering
There are information laying around, for those that you've read of & anything else you could dug up, can you post some pertinent facts (timestamp, messages, IPs, BTCs, etc)

Here's a wiki I created where everyone could edit (but I'm not the best at it): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/TradeFortress_(Bitcoin)

C) Who can volunteer to pilot this precedent-setting collective community effort?

D) Community cause donation address
A tentative donation address for this cause: 12EuhPGiDkSSGeyPxdDaT4hJvTStYRicpY
I'll pass on any amount collected to the new community organizer.


I hope you see this cause to be as important as I do in setting a notable precedent to move bitcoins above shameful/shady businesses - towards what we see and envision in Bitcoin.


For our actions echo in 'eternity',
V Smiley