Quote from: John (John K.) on November 19, 2013, 12:31:44 PM

In regard to ragingazn's personal refunds, I am still holding to that due to emails I have obtained from prodigits7. I will not post his email directly, but I ask that he show up in this thread to clarify his claims against ragingazn here.

Everyone else with an address should be refunded here, otherwise please PM me so that I can clear that up.

This is the e-mail I sent to him so you guys can get part of the picture:

TLDR:
-Prodigits7 found me on Craigslist and tried to befriend me and gain my trust
-He wanted to start up a Bitcoin Company to produce mining hardware (Avalon Clones)
-He showed me various parts that he had but nothing concrete that proved that he had another company that he claimed was printing out the PCBs
-I trusted him enough to invite him to my house (big mistake) - rest assured the machines are NOT hosted there. They are safe and are in a secure location.
-I believe his sole intention was to scam all the 10,000 Avalon Chips (800+BTC worth at the time) and leave me as the scapegoat.
-I gave him the sample chips thinking that he was truly helping me through hard times
-He still has the sample chips and now they are worthless.
-He claimed to have started refunding people over 60+ of his own BTC
-In panic he started self-willingly refunding a few people, no where near to 60 BTC, in order to gain more trust from me so he can get the KNCMiner Refunds
-I have evidence that he did not and of how he lied to me about it.
-He constantly harass my roomate and myself via phone / text / facebook / emails

TLDR2:
-Prodigits7 is a lying manipulative scumbag that should never be trusted by anyone.

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First and foremost I would like to point out that SL has nothing to do with this. You need to stop harassing him with any form of communication. He does NOT want to hear from you. Second, you need to stop with your absurd scare tactics. We are NOT doing anything illegal. As I have stated before, I am in no obligation to pay you back the BTC that you self-willingly sent to those people to cover up the fact that you lied about having already refunded "over 60 of your own Bitcoins". Again you sent those ~7 BTC (or how many ever) by yourself to try to cover up your sloppy mistake during your scam. You needed to gain trust from me that is why you thought sending a few bitcoin would help. However I will refund those BTC if you agree with my statement.

When I gave you the chips, I trusted you to be responsible for them and I had asked for them back to return to the group. But you did not. The chips will cost about 2.6 BTC (815 BTC https://blockchain.info/address/1At75rKd6e8b7S7AAPzZ5V3kAzhkGYhnpU total for the group buy and a total of 10,000 + 32 sample chips). It is now too late to return the chips because the group wants you or me to pay for the chips. You are responsible for the chips since it was your duty in Neo-ASICs to handle the hardware side of things. I still have the contract to prove it. The chips are worthless and cannot be resold so the fees must be paid due to negligence.

The only BTC I really owe you is the 4 BTC you sent for the 8 shares. I can add you to the mining company for 8 shares or you can fill out the refund form provided. Additionally since you bought the shares from the other group members self-willingly, you are able to add those shares to the group as well. I will count you in for the past 2 weeks of mining.

We are not doing anything illegal or committing any fraud. It is not illegal to mine Bitcoin. If it is illegal then you are/were involved in it because you opt in to buy shares. It is illegal however, to release any of our personal information without consent.

"I will also have a court ordered injunction that will freeze your entire operation as well as freeze all your bank account, debit and credit cards and all other assets including house, cars, computers and smartphones."

Go right ahead. I have a clear conscience. I have nothing to lose. Make my day.

Also for attempted fraud, Sam Cole co-founder of KnCMiner, already said he will help build a case against you for international grand theft fraud. He has all the evidence from the bank and recordings of you or someone calling in pretending to be me. The only person that knew all my information and the order information is you. On top of that I have an individual who's willing to step up and help me prove that you were also trying to pull something with her. I'm sure there were others from the Facebook Group that you tried to exploit.

Let me know how we should proceed.

What I "owe" Prodigits7:
-4 BTC for 8 KNCMiner Shares
-KnC BTC that he self-willingly refunded

If I am responsible for the sample chips (2.6 BTC) then Prodigits7 needs to be responsible for the cost of the sample chips at that time.