Quote from: hroub on May 11, 2018, 11:32:27 AM

Quote from: ansi on May 11, 2018, 10:03:22 AM

Quote from: hroub on May 10, 2018, 06:07:26 PM

Quote from: ansi on May 10, 2018, 04:30:36 PM

Why would you guys assume its scam already lol ?

May 15 is about to come to star sending the card, until then we can't claim they are SCAM just coz in the Demo video were covering the Card Details or the chip lol.

Because they are hiding the Asian bank name they look shady as hell, and the bad print quality of the cards indicating that they are cloned/copied cards with HC logo and design printed on them my a cheap printer.

Quote from: ansi on May 10, 2018, 04:30:36 PM

As you can see even hug ICO with their Cards cancelled have now hard time to find a bank / partner that can give them new Debit Cards. I won't blame them to no disclose the Bank / partner name yet coz of the competition.

Wrong! As I explained here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3336703.msg36575943#msg36575943
Disclosing the bank name, would actually accelerate and guarantee project funding and locking exclusivity before any competitor gets the chance to do anything. Simply, because the crypto debit cards demand is much bigger than the competition. You don't need an Economics PhD to understand that. Tongue

Quote from: ansi on May 10, 2018, 04:30:36 PM

This is business & it's their right not to say everything & then risk it all screwed.

hiding the truth = lying

Quote from: ansi on May 10, 2018, 04:30:36 PM

In crypto you have to have faith in an ICO (somehow it's the only way), this is the risk involved with any kind of investment.

Wrong again! You don't have to do anything. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. Ask any smart/successful investor and he'll tell you that with all the scam ICO's including crypto debit card scams, investors should be looking for reasons NOT to invest, instead of reasons to invest.

Quote from: ansi on May 10, 2018, 04:30:36 PM

Also OP missed the part where the team is REAL & SHOWING their faces (pictures + videos + profile...), i'm sure if they turn into a scam they'll risk going to jail + ruining their reputations for life.

I guess you missed the part where they apparently just ban people that express genuine doubts/concerns on their Telegram, instead of replying to them: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3336703.msg36578177#msg36578177
Luckily they forgot to sensor the ANN thread Tongue

You do know that the crypto Card business is now one of the hardest & most competitive niche after Visa Banned crypto transactions.
MasterCard proved to be crypto friendly so far.
You know that you don't have to be partnered directly with MasterCard in order to get a crypto card from them directly, right?
One bank / partner can deliver that as long as it's not breaking that bank / MasterCard agreements.

Uhm, yes. That's why the "secret Asian bank" is the alleged card issuer Tongue

Quote from: ansi on May 11, 2018, 10:03:22 AM

Those guys will not disclose the name of the bank as per terms of agreements.

Did you just make this up, did they change their story again, or is it just wishful thinking?
First it was, "because we don't want MC to find out it's crypto related" then it became "so our competitors won't go to the same bank and beat us to our exclusivity deal https://t.me/hashcard/17561 and they will disclose it once 3K customers are signed up", now you are saying it's because of the "bank T&C". LMAO How does that even make sense? WHy would a "secret Asian bank" want it's info hidden before 3K card are issued, only for everyone to find out which bank it was when the people receive the cards, if they do? You know that card issuers/bank names are always written on the back of the card, right?

Quote from: ansi on May 11, 2018, 10:03:22 AM

I bought the Amon ICO too & they didn't disclose that infos cos the TOS / agreement say so, does that mean AMON is a scam too lol. People were nagging about it 24/7 but they told them it's against the rules with the partner who ill be shipping the cards.

Uquid also is hiding their new bank / partner they're negotiating with right now for their new cards (after their first card issuer banned them). Does that make them scammers too ?

TenX,... you name it, these are part of the agreement & can't be disclosed just like that.

So hiding the bank / name partner & not willing to disclose that info can be part of the agreement has nothing to do with proving them being scam or not.

I haven't followed the other 2 projects you mentioned much, but Uquid, did issue debit cards, then they were cancelled, and now is trying to re-issue new ones. They are not running a shady ICO to do that, because they already finished their ICO and have done it before.

Quote from: ansi on May 11, 2018, 10:03:22 AM

Also i don't get the point of risking their whole lives (may go to jail doing that since they are known now) for a scam like that while they can make another ICO juts like 10's of other ICOs popping out daily basis with just a White Paper & they can raise even more millions of dollars.

So if I register a company, show my name and face on the internet, and request a $3-9 Million ICO, that means I would be trustworthy and there is no way I could run away to another country with the Millions?

If you like ponzi's, then I suggest you invest in this instead: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3279318.0 Tongue

Okay, I contacted that dude behind Church of the Ponzion Mind and he told me that it's legit, so I guess it's legit.

Disclosure: See my post history to see where else I've posted about HashCard.