Quote from: tvbcof on November 25, 2013, 02:23:51 AM

Quote from: psyclon on November 25, 2013, 02:06:42 AM

Quote from: Oldgamer on November 25, 2013, 01:49:12 AM

Do you ever been in China or Russia?

I have lived in Beijing, Shenzhen and Hong Kong. Although HK doesn't count as China.

How about you, Oldgamer? Have you been to China or North Korea? or have only heard of these places on CNN?

I'll guess that he's one of the immigrants who feels that he has to be a hard-core right-winger to prove his allegiance to the U.S. I think he said he's Russian or something. Seems like a Fox News sort of guy.

I've not been to Russia, but I have been to China. I most certainly did NOT feel more free there. I felt safe enough because there seemed to be pretty a pretty significant understanding that Westerners were to be treated well by the authorities. My friends did not seem comfortable with the police at all (and they were perfectly normal software engineers and so on.) I don't think one can put lipstick on the pig and paint China as some bastion of liberty and personal freedom. My main hope is that we can keep the U.S. from sinking down to that level. Of course I hope that China continues to improve, but I live in the U.S. and I care a lot more about what happens here. And of course I care deeply about our deplorable behavior globally.

I have no intention to settle down in the US, so long as 'emotions' govern the country instead of pure reason. Fox news? please.

for all I care you could make your country become another Singapore or another Norway. So long as you remain rational and consequential, and don't employ double standards where ever you please, I don't give a fuck.

Also, I must not let this slip: have you noticed how just after my first post on here I have already been accused by Oldgamer of watching CNN and being a leftist, while tvbcof accused me of watching Fox and being a hardcore rightist? this shit is just ridiculous, and you don't realize it. that's my point.

I am neither, and don't give half a shit about your president, either.

It can be very entertaining though when people like you two find me in real life and start to bitch about the other side. I usually just agree with them to preserve good relations. And think what I do.