Quote from: Oldgamer on November 25, 2013, 03:39:18 AM

Quote from: tvbcof on November 25, 2013, 02:23:51 AM

Quote from: psyclon on November 25, 2013, 02:06:42 AM

Quote from: Oldgamer on November 25, 2013, 01:49:12 AM

Do you ever been in China or Russia?

I have lived in Beijing, Shenzhen and Hong Kong. Although HK doesn't count as China.

How about you, Oldgamer? Have you been to China or North Korea? or have only heard of these places on CNN?

I'll guess that he's one of the immigrants who feels that he has to be a hard-core right-winger to prove his allegiance to the U.S. I think he said he's Russian or something. Seems like a Fox News sort of guy.

I've not been to Russia, but I have been to China. I most certainly did NOT feel more free there. I felt safe enough because there seemed to be pretty a pretty significant understanding that Westerners were to be treated well by the authorities. My friends did not seem comfortable with the police at all (and they were perfectly normal software engineers and so on.) I don't think one can put lipstick on the pig and paint China as some bastion of liberty and personal freedom. My main hope is that we can keep the U.S. from sinking down to that level. Of course I hope that China continues to improve, but I live in the U.S. and I care a lot more about what happens here. And of course I care deeply about our deplorable behavior globally.

At first, in US I do not need to prove anything. Second, it is funny how one guy accused me to watch CNN, and another Fox.
And yes, in Russia you better be loyal to authorities. Not like in US.
Third, if I was feeling to prove my allegiance to the US, why I would criticize Obama? I actually can say that he is disaster for US. So, sorry, but accusing me in this does look stupid after all, is it?

let the people decide then Wink