Quote from: joeldo on May 14, 2018, 11:59:22 PM

For those of you interested in *****forking***** the coin (project seems to be currently dead) you'd better join the following server

Someone from Cerberus-NG discord has sent me the following msg regarding the blockchain explorer which I've been running since Cerberus fork and which became unavailable after VPS provider-initiated IP address change:

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"The explorer was run by a team member that stepped down. For now you can check the old explorers. Someone is making us another one today and i will post the link when its ready".... "did he own the domain aswell?"

This was, actually, painted as I stopped it intentionally. For those who concerned, here is the full story:

I helped to the new owner to make NG releases 0.12.2.0 and 0.12.2.1, polishing every bit or comments, not talking about git commits and code changes. Also I provided a blockchain explorer for it and wrote a bot to estimate version breakdown and check if NG release overrides the old one.

After some time I decided to give up an active developer role, still being around for discussions and technical help. Soon the new CBS owner found a "very experienced" developer. The latter has published NG release 1.0.0 without any discussion with the team. I was crying looking at what was called a new major release (0.12.2.1 to 1.0.0). There was no changes in functionality except release version number, internal protocol number and spork key (this changed nothing in the way it works, just few numbers). Actually all was senseless, especially to call it a major release and not even changing to new logo.

I talked to the owner about weird git commit comments like 'dsfadfgasf', and he said he will ask to fix this bullxxxx. Instead, a next "release" 1.0.1 was published in 5 days with the same useless changes and still no new logo. In addition, it was accompanied with senseless statements like "mandatory for pools only" - it is senseless because the way of how blockchain works. No matter what blocks mining pool provides, they ALL are being validated by EVERY wallet and EVERY node. So if pool provides inconsistent block (from point of view of "old" network) - such blocks will be refused. If no "valid" blocks is provided by pools - no blocks will be created at all. This is the ABC of blockchain, and every "experienced developer" must know that.

When I argue, I always give facts. The facts are git commits (compare comments by os and mrmetech here https://github.com/cerberus-ng/cerberus/commits/master), and release comments from 12.2.x and 1.0.x (here https://github.com/cerberus-ng/cerberus/releases). They even were too lazy to fix "Added New Sprok thank you to Mrmetech" when people on discord pointed on that (sprok should be spork, and no any spork was added - just a key changed - another senseless statement, and how not to praise yourself, beloved).

I asked on discord what happens, and what the f.. is this senseless "release". Maybe a bit sharp, but quite reasoned assuming the work I did for past releases before. Instead of making valid proof statements, I was asked by new "dev" what have I done for CBS at all. And when I was writing how governance in Dash works answering him, I was banned from discord without any warnings. It was painted like I left by myself.

I found a way to talk to the new owner outside of discord, who didn't even know about my ban. We talked quite well, I spent a lot of time providing my view to how to recover all this s..t published and make a decent release. I confirmed that I am always around to help. But even being unbanned, I will not back to discord until an apology from that who has banned me. But I still continued running the explorer and the bot even if I sold out almost all my CBS after such "releases". Also I have built them a MacOS release 1.0.0 that they were unable to build for a week. After I fixed in my release all gitian descriptors to build all 5 platforms with just 3 commands, it took only 30 minutes (compare the git hash eb0eefa in MacOS version About dialog with this one: https://github.com/BlockchainWorks/cerberus/commit/eb0eefad97bec13d5b4449412ac88c03aa199295). And if new "dev" was willing to learn, he could do exactly the same asking me how instead of banning me and adding weird scripts to the repository. I doubt that they even know who has built it, except the owner who has published it. I had no intention to harm to reborn project and continued to support it running services.

June 28th, the CBS explorer and bot stopped working. I found that my VPS provider has changed the IP address of my server. I fixed the bot using new IP, but had no access to change the domain name which I don't control. I expected that the reason what's up will be asked and explorer IP changed in the DNS. But instead I found that explorer domain was redirected to another explorer (which does not provide the info required by my bot).

So facts are:
- the dev who actually reborn the project by making first NG releases, and did not agree with s..t releases, was banned by "experienced dev" who doesn't know how blockchain works and too busy to make a comment in the repository (I would be ashamed to put such "dsfadfgasf" in the repository);
- I still was running supplemental services for the coin which I don't have, but was actually accused in stopping them when it was just an IP change. No one asked me what happened.
- the explorer still is available under the name http://cbs.exp.osnwt.site/. But bot is stopped now, they, obviously, don't need it anymore. It was matter of seconds to ask me what has happened, and instead they start moving explorers and talking about team member that stepped out...

I did not leave discord, and I did not stop services intentionally, no matter what was said on discord.

I gave up the dev role due to lack of trust in the new team (or how I felt it). And this case just has proved me that I was right leaving it.

I was not going to put this on public. But since they still allow themselves to show me as a bad guy, I had to explain, they forced me to do so.

This thread is not self-moderated, so you, the "experienced developer Mrmetech", unable to ban me here and remove all I said, like how you have done on discord. And you should learn from the people who has some knowledge instead of banning them for words you don't like to hear, being so "busy" to write a 3-5 words git comment instead of "dsfadfgasf" but making absolutely senseless major "releases" thanking yourself for things you didn't.

And I could only repeat to the new owner: find a REAL developer or sell your coins while it is not too late. I could help you with new decent release in one day, but you preferred to keep that guy around and move explorers instead of asking me about explorer failure. Well, it is your project, your choice and your team.

PS. I have never thought that Crypto at discord is a lier, intentionally writing half-truth.

Crypto wrote:

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He is not banned here but chooses to hide outside of here and post negative articles instead of positively helping us make this project work.

But that is a half-truth. I may be not banned now. But I was banned, and said to project owner that I will not go back until an apology for unreasonable ban. Sorry, Joeldo (new project owner), but I have to put your words here as a proof of my words:

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I asked Crypto to unban you and he did. I told you who did it. I totally agree upon the fact that the ban was unreasonable. Overreacting is unreasonable too.

Arguing about that "release", I exactly wanted to make this project work. It was said sharply, yes, but for the reason. Crypto said they don't take abuse. But my "abuse" was in that I called things with their names: I said "shit release", and that is worst word I said. But it all was said about the shit code. No one was personally insulted.

I am not going to go back to discord to be banned again at your wish. If there is any word of untruth in the above, come and prove it here, in unmoderated topic. But until that you, Crypto, are a lier.