Quote from: fligen on November 27, 2013, 12:08:57 PM

Relevant here. Have some additional information on Ukyo too, I will be following up there for now and will publicly disclose later. I can tell you from blockchain analysis it would take a miracle for everyone to get money back, if any at all.

Where is this blockchain analysis and why do you think the bitcoins are gone? I doubt its so easy to find things out.

Quote from: tomywomy on November 27, 2013, 12:26:36 PM

I see absolutely no alternative at this point to getting the legal authorities involved, immediately.

Ukyo's delays and evasions demonstrate that he cannot resolve this problem in a reasonable way.

Frankly, I think the only thing we can expect now is for the truth of how he lost our money to come out, but if there is some left, it needs to be distributed according to a judge/trustee's direction. And, in the truth coming out, we can learn enough to avoid a recurrence of this.

Is Ukyo a thief or an failed businessman? Did he spend the money we deposited or did he lose control of it?

Without the intervention of authority, Ukyo will continue to scramble and evade and things will get worse as he tries to dig his way out.

Legal authorities? Now? When he is known in person, he is still communicating and it looks like he seems to work on it (NEOBEE)? If anyone manages to involve authorities and they close everything down so that ukyo cant access the wallet anymore and after a year of fighting we could get our bitcoins out only then i will switch my anger to this smart person. Really... what good will come out from this now?

This is different from other scams like labcoin. He is known in person and he has problems of some kind. But government involvement at this state will hurt more than help. I think they might even be able to format the harddisc with the wallet on it.

Saying that... i dont want to wait. If he has to wait for someone then he has to state this publicly. He has to come with the facts because this small pieces of nothing is nothing. It makes me angry only. While in fact i think he will have a good explaination. BUT HE NEEDS TO COME WITH THE FACTS!