Quote from: drawingthesun on November 28, 2013, 12:22:55 AM

We must keep reinvestment at least 50% no matter the bitcoin price.

I think reinvestment is the most crucial part here since ActM has the advantage of being able to produce miners at cost. It cant be done the same way by paying out all divs and buying your own mining hardware at endusersales. So reinvesting is the smarter way to more returns.

Saying that... ActM still has much Bitcoins that can be used to reinvest. So im not sure if its really needed to keep back bitcoins. If its needed then we should aggressively reinvest and get way more return this way.

The other thing is to focus on hardware sales. Its good to see that the prices were raised. But 50% only? The bitcoin exchange price is way higher than 50% now. Though of course we are at preorder state. We cant really maximize profits now since too high prices means to presales. Once we have miner at stock this will work way better and i hope Ken will flexibly adjust the prices. Not like KNC that lets themself buy out in short time and everyone knows they could made way more money selling these miners judging from the demand. This shouldnt happen to ActM.

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on November 28, 2013, 03:39:37 AM

Please, just let me sell my shares. I don't want this nightmare any longer. I realized I made a mistake when BTCT and BF shut down. Now we are just names on a list..

My prediction for the share price if it ever gets listed: .0001 BTC
even that seems too good to be true

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on November 28, 2013, 03:12:22 PM

I have no doubt that Ken is mining with at least 50TH/S right now. This is what I mean by "holding our bitcoins hostage". I am not going to say what I know from eASIC so I suggest you all do your own homework.

Wow... its impressive how desperate you are to drop the shareprice. You want to buy in fact right? Otherwise you would make a contract and accept payments to an escrow so that you can move the shares once they are listed at an exchange. If you or the buyer dont go through... they have to bear the trustloss or worse. It should be possible.
But im pretty sure you want cheap shares instead.

By the way... Ken is running the prototype board and divs are coming too... only not yet automatically. There is no sign of 50TH somewhere. Thats something you sucked out of your fingers.

Quote from: thehun on November 28, 2013, 04:45:06 PM

Quote from: lammedraak on November 28, 2013, 04:42:16 PM

Miner prices increased by 50% (old prices from http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/)

                      old price / new price
silver unit (1 module) 64GH/s - 999 / 1499.40
gold unit (1 module) 128GH/s - 1559 / 2339.40
platinum unit (1 module) 256GH/s -2399/3599.40
silver unit (2 module) 384GH/s    -2559/3839.40
gold unit (6 module) 768GH/s -5719/8579.40
platinum unit (6 module) 1536GH/s - 9039   /13559.40
platinum unit (6 module+6 cases) 24576GH/s -148958/223438.20

If prices increase, it must mean the demand exceeds the offer, right?

No... it only means that Ken finally adjusts the prices because the bitcoin worth was raised several hundred percent. If you could buy a miner for 10BTC some weeks ago you now only need maybe 2BTC though the same miner still is mining the same bitcoins. So the miners become cheaper in fact. A raise for 50% is a good sign but im not sure it thats good enough. Maybe Ken knows more to judge this.