Quote from: Zin-Zang on May 11, 2018, 02:52:39 AM

Satoshi Vision was to Remove Banks (Middle Men) from money transactions.

Bitcoin Core LN Network Places Banks/LN Hubs directly in the middle of money transactions.

Hate to break it to you , but that is one Major fuck up, if their goal was to follow satoshi vision. Tongue

So you're going to pretend you didn't post in the very thread where it appears Satoshi did have ideas about not broadcasting to the network until the final outcome is reached?

I'm going to be blunt here, I don't think anyone with such limited cognition so as to perceive payment channels as "banks" is capable of judging the intricacies and depth of Satoshi's vision. If I open multiple payment channels with other users, that doesn't give me the status of a "bank". I'm not creating money out of thin air. I'm not engaging in fractional reserve. I'm not conducting KYC/AML checks. I'm not gambling on a $1.2 quadrillion toxic derivatives market. Categorically not a bank.

Quote from: Zin-Zang on May 11, 2018, 02:52:39 AM

But no one ever said , Bitcoin Core had to follow Satoshi,
recent history , Bitcoin Core choose to follow G.Maxwell and the Axa Banking cartels, which is why you have LN.

The users have said that Bitcoin is going to follow the roadmap that has been laid out by Core. That's all that matters. If that wasn't what the users wanted, it wouldn't be what we currently have. Now stop trying to twist events to suit your skewed narrative. Developers can't force changes upon users. I have and use bech32 SegWit addresses. Not because a developer made me, but because I chose to. You follow whatever fork follows your desired roadmap, no one's forcing you to stick around and follow this one.

Quote from: franky1 on May 08, 2018, 09:54:22 PM

core have the network all in their protocol controlling hands. core is not just a wallet. they are now deemed as the sole controller of the rules..

Constantly repeating your backwards, regressive opinions doesn't make them true. At any time and for any reason the users could decide they don't want to use Core's software. But that hasn't happened yet. The users happily continue to use that software. By choice.