Quote from: GigaCoin on December 02, 2013, 08:18:41 AM

Quote from: desert_beagle on December 01, 2013, 05:09:55 PM

I'm sorry but there isn't an alternative to TAXES. If you want public services to exist, roads to be paved, streets to be cleaned, downed trees to be picked up etc etc etc then there has to be funds that take care of it.

I love how you guys wanna be left alone and shit and when you get scammed or lose your bitcoins you wanna get the law involved. I mean talk about hypocrisy.

If you wanna be on your own, then pack your belongings and move to an island somewhere with your bitcoins. But you don't wanna do that do you? No of course, you want to be part of a functioning society. Then until you live here do as is required by a citizen and pay your taxes and stop depending on others to do if for you.

Wow you really have no idea do you, have you actually checked where your taxes actually go? No need to check just take a look around... none of your taxes actually go to do any of that. Notice how on top of your large taxes you're still paying for roads via tolls, you're still paying heavy council fees, you're still paying through the roof for energy and water, you're still paying extreme insurance costs for basic healthcare, there has been no major scientific breakthroughs through government research in the past 2 decades (Curing cancer, etc) All "public" services that should be covered under a tax system in a theft free environment. Didn't you even notice how Infrastructure is crumbling and there is barely any development??

I don't actually mind taxes but only if they aren't stolen, if we are paying huge taxes but actually getting it back in form of infrastructure & development it's fine, but we know that didn't work. A society can function and prosper with a minimal flat universal tax as low as 1% or even tax free (funding government via fees for services and imports).

I suggest you do some reading on this topic, will help you better understand why every western nation is in shambles.

yeah, i think most people wouldn't complain if taxes weren't so exorbitantly high (and to top that off, they tax every fucking thing.. from income, capital gains, sales, property, VAT and whatever else). we don't need to spend trillions on defense. we don't need to spend $100 a box of markers.

the problem is that politicians and corporations use tax revenue for their own personal gain.. at the cost of the regular taxpayer.