Quote from: timsmith on July 19, 2011, 11:37:44 PM

Quote from: bbit on July 19, 2011, 11:32:31 PM

huh ? I said if they can find me another business that has fucked their customer base and made them pay - they won't find another because it doesn't happen ....

now for the stupidity I demand another 40 bitcoins with the original 40 bitcoins! Grin

No, you specifically said "I'll pay you 40 Bitcoins if you ever heard of someone fucking it up...", not "I'll pay you 40 Bitcoins if you ever heard of someone else fucking it up". You might have meant "someone else", but that's not what you said. I have indeed heard of someone who fucked it up and then had those very customers pay, because you just explained it in earlier posts.

Therefore I am entitled to my 40 Bitcoins please... Grin

(Plus I gave you two examples, so even without the legal linguistic pedantry, I still have given you another business: UK banks.)

Hmmm having security problems then later making you pay if you'd like the added security of a two-factor authentication device...

Sounds like...

Blizzard: http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100001470
Paypal: https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?&cmd=xpt/Marketing_CommandDriven/securitycenter/PayPalSecurityKey-outside
Several banks offer various cards and keyfobs, none of them free. The only time I've actually been given such a device free of charge was when I needed it to log into my employer's VPN...

All of the above charge for the devices and Blizzard's is the only one you could consider "cheap" - given that it's only protecting a game account and that they already know you've spent a small fortune before you care enough to obtain one, they've decided to take a small hit. Paypal's authenticator is $29.99.

Finally, here's a short list of other places that use the yubikey: http://www.yubico.com/references
Microsoft is on that list, touting it as a good security option for their upcoming Azure platform. Gee that smells like a scam to me too..... ?