Quote from: BADecker on May 23, 2018, 06:30:50 PM

Quote from: Astargath on May 22, 2018, 08:55:57 PM

''There is absolutely 0 evidence that we do not have faith in the womb.'' Oh really, do you think a fetus has the ability to think or reason to have faith? A 1 week fetus has faith in god, that's what you are saying, how fucking ridiculous is that LOL. There is absolutely 0 evidence that the clown monster I just made up didn't create the universe therefore must be true, right?

''God directs the things that happen to you according to your faith in Him'' How do you have faith in him tho, if you already start by having faith in him then why do you lose it?

Since we know that children reason, and since we know that even little children have emotion, IQ, and faith, we clearly know that faith exists at a young age. Where does faith start? 10 years old? 9? 8? 3? 1? 1 month? 1 minute before birth? 10 minutes before birth? 10 days before birth? A month before birth? 5 months before birth? Before conception?

Show us the proof that conception itself is NOT a thing of faith. What? Somebody has some idea that a fetus is not a person at what age? Arbitrary thinking. Same with faith.

The same example that fits evolution fits faith in people. The wood carver carves a log into a chair. He chips a little chunk of wood off the log. Is the log now the chair? How about the second chip? Or the third. How about the third last chip? At what point does the log become the chair? At what point is an evolving animal the new animal and not the old? At what point is the faith strongest?

Matthew 19:14:

Quote from: http://biblehub.com/matthew/19-14.htm

Jesus said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these."

It seems that faith is stronger in the younger.

Cool

You don't even understand my argument, if faith in god is the only free will we have, everything else that happens to us is not in our control, it's because of god. How do you lose faith in god? Is it not because of your environment? And isn't your environment written by god?