Quote from: d57heinz on May 27, 2018, 04:07:28 PM

Quote from: senseless on May 27, 2018, 03:59:54 PM

Quote from: saint78 on May 27, 2018, 03:42:04 PM

Can you give anymore details on what exactly you are going to try to get going with Intel? Are you talking Stratix10 HBM? Or some form of prototype?

Yes, the Stratix 10 parts are equivalent to the Ultrascale+ parts. I believe we'll be able to get the same or better performance for a much lower price point. If FPGA are really going to be viable in the long term to displace GPUs the cost has to be reduced in a significant way. $3995 is ok, right now, while margins are high... But if we really wanted to displace GPUs completely both the cost / perf and power / perf will need to be better than GPUs. I'm hoping that we'll eventually (6-12 months) be able to sell a $1000-2000 board with a stratix 10 or ultrascale+ part that has HBM.

Now thats a price point I can sort of agree with. Of course again the barrier for entry is awfully high. In order to maintain any sense of decentralization profits have to be low low low and cost of card has to be such that anyone can afford to play. Sadly this system will be taken over by the rich. Again the rich just continue to get richer. I had high hopes for crypto. But then bitmain came along and has everyone scrambling. Ive been warning of bitmain for years now and everyone basically ignored me. Minority you know. Anyway good luck chasing the dragon with these. Its a rich mans trick crypto is nowadays. Good luck all

BR

Unfortunately that's human nature. The same can be said for any system of proofing or economics (even socialism). There is a new netflix show called "Explained". The third episode on Monogamy had some interesting things to say about tribal nature and raising children. It really got me thinking about society as a whole, why we do the things we do, and how ridiculous it all is. We're all in this together. If the military budgets globally were diverted into science / research... Most of the ails of today would be no more... Unfortunately, empowering people also means losing power for those who currently hold it... It reminds me of that line from cloudatlas... "There is a natural order to this world, and those who try to upend it do not fare well.". (Oh reminds me of this too..)

Even if we dropped the price to $10 per HBM2 Stratix 10 part.. It wouldn't stop people with more money from buying more than the rest. Even if we limited sales it would just create a secondary resale market that those with more money would take advantage of.

I've been warning the same -- I've been very vocal against a lot of these ASIC companies and would refuse to do business with ~~most~~ all of them.