Quote from: deisik on December 08, 2013, 12:20:11 PM

Quote from: Biomech on December 08, 2013, 01:28:38 AM

Quote from: deisik on December 07, 2013, 05:49:47 AM

Quote from: User_513 on December 07, 2013, 05:26:41 AM

Oh noes! I can't possibly imagine living in a world with no government where certain bad people would no doubt try to steal from me and hurt me to help themselves! So therefore, it's necessary to submit to certain bad people who are the government who steal from me and hurt me to help themselves!

Statism = Logical failure

It's you who logically failed here. You pay some bad guys and they defend you from other bad guys out there. Because of the economy of scale, you actually end up paying much less than you would have to pay without a state behind you. So your imagination wasn't actually deceiving you...

Up to this point I thought you were serious.

Look at the tax rates. LOOK AT THEM. There is no way in hell it would ever cost me that much to defend myself, my family, and my property. If I blew off a thousand rounds a day in practice and installed prison level security, it wouldn't cost that much.

I don't deem it purposeful to answer seriously to posts that are nothing more than sheer trolling. You missed the real culprit here

Your taxes are used in a myriad other ways (pensions, health service, utilities, roads, etc), it is strange that you forget to mention such things or just hope that I would miss them. It is suicidal for any government to tax more than 50% of your total income (actually the optimal number is far below this). You would lose incentive to work if they would require more under normal conditions...

Ha. I was going to say stop feeding the troll, but hopefully people can see through deisik's deception.

You are advocating monopolized theft, murder and slavery. If someone is going to do any of the three to me, I'd rather it be an individual I'm facing, not an army of a parasitic body.

And nobody needs to worry about defense if A) they have a gun or B) aren't scared of death.

And when the government arrested me for scraping the shake (crumbs) of weed off my car floor and testing it for cannabis, they were doing so to defend me? Is that what you're saying? From whom, myself?