Quote from: BtcBling on December 11, 2013, 01:18:07 AM

Quote from: bobsag3 on December 11, 2013, 12:35:46 AM

Quote from: mushin77 on December 10, 2013, 11:17:36 PM

To clarify a few things regarding 22nm and 28nm as well as ID for orders.

1.) They stated that if you do a wire transfer from an account that does not have your name on it they they may require Identification. This can help to eliminate quite a few potential problems such as: Fraud, Ensuring Payments are Applied Properly, etc... Even in the US we stores ask for ID when you write a check. I am not worried that they ask the same for a Wire Transfer.

2.) Re: 22nm and 28nm. They floated the question about 22 nm but also stated that they would focus on current design and worry about 22nm for the future. Seems reasonable that they would want to consider all options.

Observation: If you read through this entire thread you will see that it started out nice and neat with on topic questions and answers but as it progresses you can see how even the simplest replies from Black Arrow and other lead to all kinds of unwarranted speculations, off topic posts, and other posts that only create more work for everyone. Many of the questions asked have already been answered in the 30+ pages of posts but people ask again anyway. It would indeed be nice keep things simple and too the point.

Thank you for the clear and concise points- could not have said it better myself.

This thread is actually very much to the point. Take a look on the knc thread... and say after it that this is obscured...
but however discussion is always a good thing.

I don't see it at this stage a positive thing when a company asks what they should do from their customers.
That should be done at the very beginning of the design process. Throwing dice when the design should be ready
makes customers nervous and at least Im wondering what's the focus. There should not have been any kind of vote or question,
only the focus to get the 28mm design done in time. Hopefully it's now the situation.

I was aware about conditions when ID is required with wires and it still is weird. I send wires to the US, China and various EU countires
quite often and ever - no one - have asked ID in such situation when wire comes from the different account name than on the
order. That happens everywhere and everyday. Holding company pays orders instead of company who orginally made the
order. Company you work for might pay the order for some reason. My company might pay the order for another reason etc and
nothing illegal. Sure, BA can ask IDs, but as long as this is the situation, im out of their books. If my money is not easily welcome, then it goes elsewhere.

Another small, but strange thing is that BA doesn't accept group buys even if only one is handling whole thing as it usually goes.
This doesn't apply to me, however just strange policy. Usually companies are willing to sell as much as they can.

However - Now, I don't post anymore about this subject, it just bothered me a lot as I was about to place X-3 orders some time ago, but was forced to
chance plans as I found that strange clause about required ID docs and explanations.

This isn't really odd actually. a group buy save's you nothing. They have a reseller lined up. And it avoids 200 scams of group buys that never go through. You have three authorized places to buy. That's plenty.

Seeing as they are super busy I'm hoping this is a good sign. And everyone on here constantly jumping at their date because BFL and others have failed us is rude and rather sad. Give them the benefit of the doubt. NO ONE can prove they will or will not be on time. Read about them and either invest or don't but a bunch of guys speculating that MAYYYYYBe they will be on time. a bunch saying no. with no real proof to back it aside from past experience with other companies...

Shutup and let them work