Quote from: iCEBREAKER on December 11, 2013, 08:44:45 PM

Do you really think HashFast isn't going to make up for their delay?

No there aren't. They already profited from the fraud. Still even if they did it wouldn't undo the fraud.

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Do you really think HashFast doesn't want to reclaim the enthusiasm and popularity they enjoyed before suffering a couple of normal, entirely predictable delays?

They don't have to. Now that they lied to their first customers, made additional millions from that deception, and are in a place to deliver in volume they will simply lower the prices to be competitive. It doesn't matter if their original customers got screwed over, it doesn't matter if not a single one ever buys from them again. Miners really just look for the best value "today". Just look at Avalon & BFL. If the price is right for future units people will buy them. HashFast doesn't have to "make it right" to move units. They simply have to deliver future units at a competitive price.

Making it right to the people they defrauded would be pointless. The right thing to do is not defraud your customers. Once you have already done that it is beyond stupid to "make it right". Who would do that?

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They can't tell us how the delay compensation will work until those variables are evaluated.

Of course they can.

They have refused refunds even for those who placed orders prior to 15 AUG when the "31 DEC guaranteed delivery" was snuck in.
They have refused to provide additional MPP.
They have refused to ship MPP early.

They have refused to provide a partial refund for the time value. "Dec" units will ship right after "Oct" units yet were priced much lower. HF "could" refund the difference since honestly there is now no difference between a higher priced "Oct" unit and a lower priced "Dec" one.

HashFast is clearly indicated they are sticking with their terms (even illegally retroactively changed after the fact terms) and their fraud. They won't delivery anything extra or anything early. People like you say we should be happy with what they (haven't) delivered. Why would they deliver more if they are doing everything right already?

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The fact that you are attacking them makes you no better than crybabies like cedavid.

I think my reputation is a little better than yours so sorry to be direct but I don't give two fucks what you think ... about anything. If you start praising me well that probably means I have done something wrong so I better take a hard look at myself. Still I think I have helped you drag this off topic enough so this will be my last post.