Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on June 03, 2018, 09:35:50 PM

Quote from: Anduck on June 03, 2018, 09:14:21 PM

What happened?
Shortly, I pissed off DT2 member called Vod. He was rude against me, called me a scammer and so on, so I red-rated him as I don't trust people who call me a scammer. Later he contacted me about it and told me that he doesn't see me as untrustworthy. But, he threatened to red-rate me unless I changed my rating. I didn't obey, so he red-rated me.

You don't trust people who call you a scammer ? Similarly, maybe he doesn't trust people who don't trust him ? I don't really see any issue trust abuse with his ratings.I mean he just did what he was suppose to ? Like he even gave you a warning and you ignored it ? The problem is not the rating, it's the account that is coming from.I'm sure had it been from someone not on the DT you would ignore it ? Honestly, if I was you, I would think before leaving a negative feedback to a DT member.

He told me he doesn't think I did anything untrustworthy. And got pissed when I didn't want to change my rating. Resulted in him red-rating me. He gave me a warning? Sure, you mean when he threatened me?

Of course if it was not from DT member, and therefore not affecting my account, I would've not gone to these lengths about this. I've been vocal about abusing that has happened towards others, which has previously *almost* resulted in me getting a wrecked account.

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Honestly, if I was you, I would think before leaving a negative feedback to a DT member.

This particular DT member acted disrespectfully towards me, in public. He gave me all the reasons to not trust him in any trades I would do with him. I don't fear rating him red. Regardless, I were open to drop my rating as I hadn't been trading with Vod anyway. But when he started threatening me, it was obvious that I shouldn't trust him. In any case it shouldn't end up in this sort of abuse. It turns to be abuse when it affects the general view of an account and is based on outburst, lies and retaliation.

Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on June 03, 2018, 09:35:50 PM

Quote from: Anduck on June 03, 2018, 09:14:21 PM

So I told him that I don't trust him and I guess he took it very personally leading to this shit storm.

If someone tells me that they don;t trust me I'm sure as hell I wouldn't trust them either.I still don't get it how do you see this as a trust abuse ?

Quote from: Anduck on June 03, 2018, 09:14:21 PM

Remember, most people are afraid to tell these people negative things about them.

That's not the case.For instance, if I call The Pharmacist a Asian Hating turd don't think he will give me a negative feedback and use his DT powers ? That would be a trust abuse lol

(* no offence to you Pharmacist you know I like you)

Read what happened, please. As I mentioned, of course people can rate each other how they like. That doesn't mean abusing couldn't happen or isn't happening.

Quote from: shahzadafzal on June 03, 2018, 09:47:01 PM

You got red trust because you bid on your own bidding thread? Right...

If that is the only case yes your "red trust is very unfair. @vod misused his powers clearly.

You did not use an alt account or any thing there is was no bad motives behind your bid. He gave you red trust because he did not like it, this is unfair.

You own bid means you want to sell above 0.72BTC. And every participant knew its you... this does not count as scamming.

Im with you on this @vod should take back red trust.

I did not get red trust because of bidding in the auction I held. Vod told me he saw nothing untrustworthy in that. (Although later when his outburst happened, he changed his stance on this to suit his reasoning.)

Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on June 03, 2018, 09:54:13 PM

Quote from: shahzadafzal on June 03, 2018, 09:47:01 PM

You got red trust because you bid on your own bidding thread? Right...
If that is the only case yes your "red trust is very unfair. @vod misused his powers clearly.

How bidding on your own auction is a fair behaviour ? Did you even read the thread ? I'm pretty sure you have no idea what powers or misuse mean.Do you even know what does auction mean ?

Think about this for a while. Auction rules are same for all. There are different auction types in the world. It's common for auctioneer to bid on the auctions in my country. It's very uncommon in these forums. Anyway this has been hashed elsewhere, e.g.: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2535142.msg25936463#msg25936463

Anyway that is offtopic for this thread. Vod told me he doesn't see my actions regarding that auction as untrustworthy.

Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on June 03, 2018, 09:54:13 PM

Quote from: shahzadafzal on June 03, 2018, 09:47:01 PM

You did not use an alt account or any thing there is was no bad motives behind your bid. He gave you red trust because he did not like it, this is unfair.

That's the entire point of the trust system.If I don't like the way you did something, I will find you untrustworthy and leave you a feedback.

Quote from: shahzadafzal on June 03, 2018, 09:47:01 PM

You own bid means you want to sell above 0.72BTC. And every participant knew its you... this does not count as scamming.

Im with you on this @vod should take back red trust.

Regardless of the bidding issue.You should have the sense of reality that is,Vod would give two shits about what you think considering his long history of giving appropriate feedback.

I've been around for 7 years. I know Vod has been here also for a long time, and I acknowledge that he has had a significant positive effect on the forum. I know most of his ratings are good. This thread is not about that.