Quote from: The Pharmacist on June 04, 2018, 12:19:23 AM

Now about the Vod/Anduck dispute. I read what was said between the two in the other thread, and the bottom line is that they don't trust one another--and if Anduck bid on his own auction, that seems like it's a solid reason on Vod's part regardless of what he'd previously said. Bid shilling is pretty much the worst thing you could do in an auction. It's basically stealing money from the real bidders.

Nobody is bid shilling here. Read about auctions to understand that there's nothing weird in auctioneer bidding in the auction. Even though it may be or sound weird for you. Think about it for a while. Threatening, lying and harassing on the other hand.. You seem to have extremely light stance on that stuff.

If you had read the sources, you would know by now that Vod red-rated me after threatening to do that if I didn't change my rating. His "reason" to do it had nothing to do with the auction. He told me, as you can see in the sources, what his reason to red-rate me was. So there's the reason Vod told me, and the real reason which is the earlier threat to do it.

Quote from: The Pharmacist on June 04, 2018, 12:19:23 AM

Whatever the case may be, this is between Anduck and Vod and I'm not sure what Anduck is trying to do here. Even if Vod is totally in the wrong by leaving him a neg, it would be one bad feedback in a sea of good ones and I doubt there's anyone here willing to jump on Vod to pressure him to change it. It's just politics; it's not going to happen, whether you agree with it or not.

As I've said various times, I acknowledge that Vod has been (and continues to be) a strong positive for the forum. However, that doesn't change anything about what's going on in this case. Vod is abusing his position in this case. You're right: people refuse to act, because their account will be wrecked easily, unquestioned by others. Let's try to fight abuse even though it might lead to no resolution?

Quote from: The Pharmacist on June 04, 2018, 12:19:23 AM

I'd also add that Anduck's account has a lot of positive feedback and it's not ruined by any means. I wonder if Vod's feedback has actually prejudiced any noob from doing deals with him or if Anduck is just projecting that outcome in the future. But if he did indeed bid on his own auction....people need to watch out for that.

There's nothing shady or untrustworthy in auctioneer clearly bidding on his own auction. It's that simple. And it's uncommon here. If you genuinely think that it's justified to negatively rate over uncommon practice: the said auction happened over two years ago, and apparently it's "alright" for Vod to bring up fresh negative trust for that.

All in all, it certainly seems like Vod did not rate me because of the events of the auction. Most obvious reason is that Vod rated me because he outburst at me, and had to justify it somehow. It would be clear if you read the sources.

Quote from: Vod on June 04, 2018, 02:26:47 AM

Quote from: Anduck on June 03, 2018, 09:14:21 PM

But, he threatened to red-rate me unless I changed my rating.

You should provide a quote for this. Roll Eyes

This is why I don't endlessly converse on and on about why I leave valid ratings. People tend to twist, deceive and outright lie.

I'll just assume the rest of your threads/post are going to contain content of similar "quality".

It's not my fault you're not reading.

You're twisting, deceiving and outright lying as everyone can see, if they read the linked sources. Wish people who comment here actually did read, but it seems like it's not happening very much.

Anyway, once more,
Linked source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3869593.msg38658847#msg38658847), reference #2.
I'll link another sum-up: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3869593.msg37714469#msg37714469
To avoid more dodging, here's your private (later published) message to me:

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I have made it neutral. You have made yours negative. Once of us will have to change it.

To make it extremely clear for everyone, this means: "If you don't change your rating, I will rate you red" or "You have to change your rating to neutral or I have to change mine to negative" subtly put.

You're taking people as fools. It's working while it should not, which is sad.