Quote from: Shnikes101 on June 04, 2018, 06:23:39 PM

0.12.2.0 tagged for release. https://github.com/monero-project/monero/releases/tag/v0.12.2.0

The reddit fam are thinking with this release a more official announcement of ledger support will occur.
May add a little today on the pure hope that ledger support isn't fully priced in. Assuming that affects price at all.

Great to see but yeah, it's already priced in. You never know though a P&D may follow but I will bet against a major floor raise. Although I think we turned the corner on the slide so this is indeed great news.

Quote from: Febo on June 04, 2018, 04:22:50 PM

Quote from: BldSwtTrs on June 04, 2018, 03:22:44 PM

The fact that Bitcoin devs cannot fork Bitcoin to change a core feature on a whim is one reason why Monero will never compete against Bitcoin on the monetary use case.

The fact that the devs can change the POW on Monero is a fucking disgrace and strongly diminish its long term expected value. I look forward to see their next unilateral change of a core protocol feature.

No the fact that this is possible is because Monero had forks every 6 months and until that will go on will be possible. Why that is possible, because Monero developers are not afraid of anyone to keep old fork alive as many other coins developers are.

BldSwtTrs if you like ASIC mined Monero you have it. It dont have few important upgrades but there it is. Support it and make it grow and donate or hire their developers to develop it further or at least copy/paste new Monero code there. You can do it. But all this is sort of offcopic here then. Dont say something is disgrace, just do it better and show the way with example.

Either your feeding a troll or he is ignorant of so many basic concepts have fun catching him up to date. Wink

Quote from: mymenace on June 04, 2018, 08:14:36 PM

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Quote from: Globb0 on May 31, 2018, 02:35:32 PM

So what are people implying here?

That's ASIC owners were also the coin pumpers and manipulators?

Some points:

- Hashrate was DOMINATED by "unknown" players last year and up to the HF.
- This was often attributed to botnets.
- 2 manufacturers produced CN ASICS around the time of this increase
- The moment the hashing alg was changed >60% hashrate disappeared.
- Three versions of the old chain were created (XMC, XMO, XMsomethingelse)
- Much of the displaced hashrate seemed to go to these chains.

It has been suggested that tBitmain created the ASICS, burned them in for a while (what? 6 months? lol) And thten put them on the market.

It has been suggested that Bitmain (or some other ASIC manufacturer) created one or more of the "classic" chains to continue to be mined by ASICS.

It seems Zooko met with Jihan Wu and determined by feels that Jihan had nothing to do with the extra hashrate or the forks.

Butterfly Labs

Wonderful story, one of the first of its kind with a few others around then

Asic hardware and hardware mining companies need full transparency to determine legitmacy, unlike what you would expect in the gold market

Explains how it all works.
https://www.theverge.com/2014/9/23/6833047/bitcoin-conspiracy-theorists-vindicated-as-ftc-shuts-down-butterfly-labs

How to play the market

just play the scam (in other words all markets have a collective that can dump at any time - fiat, stocks, gold, crypto)
follow the whales, buy the dip

its a buy the dip scheme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0akBdQa55b4

The bolded is not true at all, butterfly labs failed because of the monolithic structure of the chip which in turn caused a cascading effect making them non competitive. Their delays and capitol bleeding were all do to TDP, A company that has the resources to build something in the background like bitmain did, has no need of transparency and neither does intel, AMd, samsung or a host of other manufacturers.

Hah, O wait I see your problem, it's your reading comprehension. From your article, they didn't fail because of transparency at all in providing hardware. The real failure was they were unable to compete by the time they shipped.

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As pointed out in court filings Butterfly Labs made last night, Butterfly Labs has shipped more than $33 million in products to customers and voluntarily granted refunds approximating $17 million to customers for cancelled orders. Butterfly Labs was literally is in the midst of shipping out completed products to fulfill the remaining millions of dollars of orders on our books and issuing requested refunds, when the FTC effectively closed the doors of Butterfly Labs without any chance to be heard in court.

Quote from: airdrophunter on June 04, 2018, 11:13:56 PM

Since i joined in this forum, it was only then that i know about some of alternate coins that is flying in colors and Monero is one of them. It almost reached 500$ mark before it went down. I speculate that when bitcoin will have an ATH this year, Monero will also have a new price high too.

I believe you are correct sir.