Quote from: MiCoSa on June 05, 2018, 08:50:32 AM

Quote from: l8orre on June 05, 2018, 05:55:50 AM

Quote from: MiCoSa on June 04, 2018, 07:53:59 PM

@l8orre: So if i understand you right, you are the one that decides which coin belongs to the Top30 and which does not? I always thought the market will decide that, and the market seems to think XVG belongs there. But sorry if i was wrong with that. I just did not know, that you decide that...
You should realize, that your opinion is obviously not the opinion of the major part of cryptoinvestors... This should be reason enough for you to think about that opinion again, dont you think? What makes you believe, that your opinion is right and the one of the major part of cryptoinvestors is wrong? Most time, if the majority's opinion is different from the one of a few guys, the majority is right. Not always, but most time...
If you think XVG does not belong to the Top30, what do you think about bitcoin? What is bitcoin? Well, it is not even kind of decentralized, it is slow, it is an ecological disaster, and it is technological antiquated... Thats our number one! It's sink or swim! And if you dont like the way the cryptomarket is working, feel free to leave it... Noone will miss you...

hahaha .. exactly my point!

you have misunderstood my argument, so let me explain: of course it is not me to decide about the value of XVG, it is the market - which goes to show how immature this market is, because XVG is broken software, and only reckless and immature fools will cling to that illusion that (after missing BTC and so many other successful boats that have sailed already in the cryptosphere) - they will be able to catch a ride with $XVG.

which they won't, because $XVG is broken software.

but you are right about one thing: it is indeed opinions we are talking about here, so if you don't care about mine, please don't bother

on the other hand, saying that $XVG does not belong into the top30 is backed by the argument that having a shitty assed, broken piece of software does tarnish the reputation of crypto as a whole, because it will come down sooner or later, which I think is a pretty damn good argument.

or what do you think about the fact that some entity seems to have arbitrary access counterfeit $XVG?
and what does that mean for the value of $XVG?

mind you, I do not have much skin in this game, $XVG is one of the last $hitcoins with much visibility -DogeCoin RaceCars, yay, those were the days in early 2014 Cool

and it won't seriously affect crypto - wicked outright ripoffs like Bitconnect and Onecoin and such were much worse, and they went away too- I am just here because I appreciate what guys like ocminer and CHIEF56 et al are doing

Ok, beside the fact, that you did not answer even one of my questions, i could read in this post now, that you are senior software engineer, right? 99.99% of the cryptoinvestors have the opinion XVG is not broken software, but it is a reliable project worth to invest in it. You have another opinion... And again, maybe you should think again about that (most likely wrong) opinion. It is easy to say, my opinion is the only right opinion, and the whole market is immature, i am the only one who knows what's going on, without any proof of that.

"that some entity seems to have" = FUD

Please let me repeat the question i would really like to get an answer from you:

Bitcoin:

not really decentralized
extremely slow
ecological disaster
technological antiquated

[st]

If you look at these facts (and these are real facts), there is only one possible conclusion: Bitcoin is shitcoin...

What do you think about that?

Whaaaat

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