Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on June 05, 2018, 07:16:44 PM

Quote from: Anduck on June 05, 2018, 06:49:22 PM

All "he-said-she-said" is public and verifiable. There's not very much of that. I even linked all of it to you. So go and make your own conclusions instead of being a lazy ass still commenting here about matters you've not learned about. Only reason for you to ignore all the PMs is when you want to avoid the truth.... How many times do I need to ask you to read the provable and undisputed sources.

I have read in depth the post where you outline the timeline of events. It is peppered with your own personal views on the statements, which are completely subjective, so I would hardly call it "undisputed".

Feel free to tell me how I am wrong in anything in that summary. In any case, you can read the raw sources (available in that same thread) and end up in the same or similar conclusions. The statements are what they are. If Vod tells me that he will negatively rate me if I don't do what he says, that was changing my rating, I see that as a threat. That for instance. Someone could come and argue that it's "gentle proposition" or whatever bullshit. Please go argue in that thread as it's more on-topic there. You can then link your own summary and conclusions here. Do as you like, really.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on June 05, 2018, 07:16:44 PM

Quote from: Anduck on June 05, 2018, 06:49:22 PM

Nobody was scammed

A scam does not have to be successful for someone to be tagged as a scammer (e.g. alia)

Correct. In this case, scamming was not attempted either.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on June 05, 2018, 07:16:44 PM

Quote from: Anduck on June 05, 2018, 07:04:07 PM

Reminding again: this discussion is off-topic in this thread.

I can understand that you want to shoehorn this discussion back to the who-called-who a liar, who-threatened-who, etc. as you feel you have a stronger case there. It seems you accept that self-bidding is a shady practice, which is why you don't want to talk about it.

I want Vod to address my questions. I want Vod to realize what he's doing. I want all the people to realize what's going on in these forums. I want changes to the Default Trust system as it's encouraging heavy abuse/misuse and causes fear of speech as of now. Simple adjusting of the default trust system could make it a lot more fair and credible. Trust system is not a game. Yet it has formed into one. I want things to improve to make this forum better. And I want this thread to stay on topic. I also want people to read what has happened before commenting.

I think I've discussed self-bidding and auctions in general to a great length already. I can talk about it with you in another thread or in private. Maybe we can continue in that Reputation thread? What do you not know yet? What do you want?

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