Quote from: mymenace on June 05, 2018, 08:51:22 PM

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no need from my point of view, as one way or another BTC price is not affected.

there is plenty of evidence around if you look for it. believing it is up to the individual. depends on ones technical understanding of the tech and your belief in the sources.

I think that part of my point is that moon landing and other topics such as the official story behind the twin tower and DC attacks of 9/11/2001, who was behind the JFK assassination and other topics have decently credible evidence on both sides.. There is almost NO decently credible evidence that the earth is flat.

ive seen a bit of the "fake moon landing" stuff. shadows in odd directions, flag staying horizontal, the rock with a prop number, camera button too small, such like that. all were debunked once you know the real reasons for such "discrepancies."

unless theres much more recent stuff to "prove" otherwise, the moon landing being real is a done deal for me.

btw i watched the 1st moon landing in a telescope with my dad in the back yard. cant say we saw much however

Sure... it seems as if 6 manned landings does provide for more evidence that manned moon landings actually did take place. So, yeah, if that stuff was faked, then there would habe been a whole hell-of-a lot of theatrics to pull it off.

I am not really very attached to the moon landing topic, but I can appreciate ways in which any kinds of conspiracy and theories of truth can be connected with benefits of an immutable blockchain that could help to bring some truth to power - even though the powers that be are not likely to let go of their various propaganda machines at any point in the near future, and accordingly, similar to the internet, but likely more profound, bitcoin is likely to deliver a decently sized check on several mainstream propaganda systems.

...."even though the powers that be are not likely to let go of their various propaganda machines"...

True but it is currently been takin away from them, already happening

Perhaps you are a bit more optimistic than me? There continue to be internet informational and disinformation wars, and even governments who try to shut down the internet and even in the USA with stupid ass slow ass internet speeds and legislation that commercializes (throttles or slow down some kinds of content). I doubt that the power is gone because a lot of people believe bullshit, and accept outright hateful self-centered criminal leaders like trump.. The war of information rages on.. and government players, large companies and rich people continue to have a disproportionate level of power and influence into distracting through quasi-truths and untruths.

Quote from: mymenace on June 05, 2018, 08:51:22 PM

..."By the end of the decade we will walk on the moon"...

They sure were running out of time to keep that statement, I wonder if they pulled out all the tricks to make sure 1969 moon landing happened.

would be very embarrassing if it did not happen with all that wasted taxpayer money

Perhaps we agree about the motive to lie.. however, I don't agree with your "wasted taxpayer money" concept. Publicly beneficial research and development does sometimes come out of government projects that would not have happened nor materialized without such use of community funds, even if there were millions of dollars into researching a space pen or some other seemingly "wasteful" research.