Quote from: BADecker on June 08, 2018, 11:38:23 PM

Quote from: Astargath on June 06, 2018, 08:14:40 PM

This thread is about scientific proof not religion, please stop bringing religion into the discussion, I know you like god but refrain from it here.

Cool

This thread is about scientific proof, not correcting someone on their off-topic posts. Please stop bringing off-topic posts into the discussion, since that is what you are doing when you talk about religious posts.

Why don't you state a scientific opposition to cause and effect, entropy, or complexity, and how they combine to prove God exists, rather than simply stating you debunked such science. And the real proof for God is the machine nature of the universe. We have no other example than the fact that machines have makers.

Cool

I did, it's right up there, you just ignored it because you can't argue. I said, how do you know when something is designed or not, the only examples of design we have are ours, your argument is, humans design things therefore all the things that are not designed by humans have to be designed by something else.

Even if we agree on all that, it still doesn't mean it's Yahweh. Even if your whole argument was right (it's not) there is nothing that indicates the creator was Yahweh, your argument tries to say that you need to have something more complex that created the universe but something more complex =/= yahweh necessarily, it also doesn't rule out the possibility of different creators working together or something that we don't even imagine, again, there is no indication that yahweh did it.