Quote from: Augusto Croppo on December 14, 2013, 03:18:48 PM

Quote from: ffssixtynine on December 14, 2013, 02:13:56 PM

Yeah, but pirate was anonymous.

The forum participant Pirateat40 was not anonymous at all. His identity and his business relationships were well know by many people not only here, but outside this forum as well.

Notice the date of this post:

Quote from: notme on August 01, 2012, 07:52:12 AM

Pirate is 3rd from the right. His real name is Trendon Shavers and he lives in McKinney, TX. He will be turning 30 in September.

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In fact, Danny runs a large start-up, has over 30 people working for his company, deals with several officials in Cyprus (part of the EU, not some backwater where people can run away), meets both businesses and individuals to discuss the neo, and has respectable international legal and accounting cover. Of course it could all be an amazingly elaborate scam but it wouldn't make any logical sense.

I verified that your participation in this forum did not completed one year yet. So you must understand that your speech for many of us, the old participants (which includes our resident troll Crumbs), is nothing new. The same kind of rhetoric you are using to defend Ukyo and Cryptocyprus was used several times by many people to defend Pirateat40.

That said, I am not endorsing the accusations made against Ukyo and Cryptocyprus. However, I must recognize that your effort to liaise in favour of both individuals appears very suspicious to anyone following this case.

By the way, if you want to use the fallacy guilty by association to prove that Cryptocyprus is a trustworthy individual, then I am sure you are doing more harm than good. Cyprus is well know for its corruption:

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Banks, industrialists, politicians and those who had insider trading connections made millions from this financial honey trap, while Citizen Joe lost his savings, home and livelihood. To this day, nobody has been prosecuted or held accountable for the biggest financial scandal and fraud on the island. Profiteering, protected by vision-less governments has gone too far!

Read more at: http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers.com/2012/03/14/vanishing-cyprus-consumerism/id=0011001
Copyright © Cyprus Property News

So, let's rephrase what you wrote, but with added content:

In fact, Danny runs a large start-up, has over 30 people working for his company, deals with several officials in Cyprus (banks, industrialists, politicians and those who had insider trading connections made millions from a financial honey trap, while Citizen Joe lost his savings, home and livelihood), meets both businesses and individuals (which has not been prosecuted or held accountable for the biggest financial scandal and fraud on the island) to discuss the neo, and has respectable international legal and accounting cover. Of course it could all be an amazingly elaborate scam but it wouldn't make any logical sense.

I'm beginning to be a little worried about ffs69 too.
It's true he was the first who raised the weexechange issue, and although before I had interpreted it as a proof of trustworthiness, I'm not sure about it anymore.
I'm happy about the danny's intervention in this huge mess and I agree with some ffs69's point, but his repeated need to justify the actions taken and trying to give Ukyo ever increasing time to clear the mess is really suspicious.
I remember this:

Quote from: Ukyo on January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM

Quote from: ffssixtynine on January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM

Nope, didn't miss that. And wasn't surprised to see it. Ukyo said there would be an announcement later today after which he would have more time to deal with weexchange issues. From the sound of it, weexchange will be sorted out properly in a few weeks but for now we just need the wallet to work again.

Let's hope much much much sooner than a few weeks..
That seems excessive...

At the time, nothing seemed to suggest a need of "few weeks" to sort the things right, Ukyo himself intervened to seem confident in a faster resolution. FFs69 has always been extremely tolerant, for someone who is risking 70+ xbt. I'm in for 10.5 xbt and while I agree we should not act impulsively to achieve some result, I'm really pissed and it is not easy to be quiet.

Finally, he REALLY acted shady when he was in the activemining board, when the share price collapsed with huge amount of shares sold in the same day and shortly after he and the other board members announced they left the board. Surely it was inside trading and I can understand it in the unregulated bitcoin securities world, it's certainly not a plus in its favor