Quote from: The Avenger on December 14, 2013, 03:58:56 PM

Quote from: jelin1984 on December 14, 2013, 03:49:15 PM

by far knc is the best company

The only other company that has shipped is bfl, so it's only really fair at this point to say "knc are better than bfl".

I think in the new year, when 2 or 3 more asic companies ship, we'll see a whole new picture emerge.

Quote from: The Avenger on December 14, 2013, 03:42:38 PM

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on December 14, 2013, 02:42:12 PM

Q2 begins in 3 months, 2 weeks.... not seven months... and the ststement said q1/q2, so could be sooner.

KNC have shipped *everything* late. Even, somehow, boards they had in stock Grin

So they have a 100% track record of delivering late. That's what I base my numbers on - what they have done over and over again - 100% of the time.
No other company has delivered faster than KNC, and now since others have announced delays longer than the few days KNC was late delivering... So they are already later than KNC. Waaaaay later than they predicted, I don't see your reasoning. Totally twisted to see what you want, and not the truth. Where are the Terraminers & Baby Jets they "promised" months ago?

They say Q2, it could easily mean "first weeks in Q3". That's totally consistent with what they have done 100% of the time so far. If you think they will suddenly change that, when going out into uncharted water's with 20nm, you are welcome to delude yourself into believing that. It's much more realistic to look at what a company have done 100% of the time to work out how they will perform in the future.

Right. and they are thousands of percents faster when compared to HF & CT's original delivery dates.

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on December 14, 2013, 02:42:12 PM

Until another company can physically show me a better deal.... They get a facepalm from my wallet.

28nm tech.
KNC = 140GH/s per board delivered & hashing .. 3 batches! and the 20NM Neptunes?
HF = 500+GH/s per board Not a single unit delivered, and delayed over a month over procuring substrates
CT... Just announced fabout.... How late?

Those figures suggest massively superior engineering to me. Me too! How about you phoenuis? Or are you going to tell me 140GH >>>>>>>> 500GH? Yes, I am... that 140 gh/s was delivered in October... and since has increased by a large margin, delivered 3 batches... and Now the Neptunes are on the way.... Where is HF again? and CT?

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on December 14, 2013, 02:42:12 PM

Anything else, and you're delusional.

You call me delusional when you have those figures in front of you Grin

I think those knc rose tinted glasses you wear are pinching your brain a little too much. All that "special treatment" you got from knc is clouding your judgement.
Delusional, yes indeed. Hahahaha. I guess we will see who is more delusional come Neptune time. This is the same stuff we heard all along the dev process with KNC... yet they dominate the current hashrate

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on December 14, 2013, 02:42:12 PM

and... "HashFast Announces Fastest Bitcoin Mining Chip in the World!"... uh huh...

See above - it is! Unless in your rose coloured world 140GH >>>>>>>> 500GH?

It's crazy how different we see things.... Wink

Your fact-age is true indeed, yet so is mine. A matter of perspective. Interesting to hear though.