Quote from: r1senfa17h on December 28, 2013, 01:50:58 PM

Quote from: Paladin69 on December 28, 2013, 08:02:43 AM

They will ship from stock and be priced competitively I'm sure once HashFast officially launches to their first customers. No point in shipping until HashFast seems to finally be the real deal. People there are still waiting on their shit. Amazing.

Is anyone here mining alts? How does a person set up their own private pool? The alts seem so scammy but I'm still curious about them.

Looks like HF is closer than ever now and they appear to have a much faster machine than advertised according to the Eligius address they're using. I still feel bad for those who ordered from batch 1 since it would take 1532Gh/s on Jan 1st to equal the 400gh/s they were promised on October 20th. Regardless, they'll likely start shipping on Monday, which may prompt KnC to take action and sell us more stuff.

They've already taken action - they are selling the machine they sold for 13k for 10k now Cheesy

It's desperation, as they see they were far too greedy with the 13k price tag. People are beginning to see knobtune is a dead duck. Competition already have the tech now knc are promising in Q2/Q3. knc are just desperately want to take any cash they can get their hands on.

That said, since I spelled out that the short term gain of selling new Jupiturds will burn their knobtune sales in the long run, they may not even sell a new batch. A few jups now is worth a helluva lot more than some faulty beta device in Q2/Q3 and you know it'll lead to mass knobtunes refunds if people could order jups now instead. Or of course they could make it impossible to get a refund on knobtune and *then* release Jups? That is certainly possible, I wouldn't put it past kfc to pull this sneaky stunt.

And regardless of any of the misleading bs posted here, there are only two batches:
First batch - 10k, which was open to previous customers
Second batch - 13k, open to all, delivery one month after first batch

The current 10k ones on sale on the knc website are the *same* second batch people paid 13k for! Yeah - if you paid 13k, you were f-ed in the a44.

This is why knc have not advertised this sale - they don't want to have to refund the extra 3k they've taken from people. They hope people will be misled into thinking it's another batch. It's not and don't believe anyone who tells you it is. The clue is in the title "Neptune Second Batch" and description "This order is for the second batch which will leave about one month after the first batch".

Quote from: The Avenger on December 14, 2013, 07:31:57 PM

P.S. My next prediction is when they will shut the refund window on knobtunes? I guess not that far away, they need to lock that cash in when people realise they are going to mine diddly when they ship. March? April? Or earlier? I originally thought April, but now the competition has arrived and knc are getting scared, you'd have to guess earlier.

Very important to note that the "All refunds will be refunded in dollars and you can refund up to shipment" has been removed from all newsletters related to knobtune. I knew this was coming ^ . What does that signal??

You can be 100% sure they are about to slam the refunds door shut and your money will be locked away. There is no way they will start the NRE, sink that money and allow people to still get refunds. Everyone was locked in this year in Jupiter orders by their own choice, because there was no competition. So knc didn't need to refuse refunds up until people really started to get cold feet in September, (which is when they did their "no more changes possible" newsletter and started their downward spiral of blatant lying to customers).

But this time there is major competition and you can be 100% sure "no refunds" is on the way very soon. Much sooner than I expected - you'd have to guess in the next couple of weeks. It just needs a trigger. That will probably be when people get back from holiday and realise they paid 13k for something that is only 10k and start asking knc for the 3k back. I imagine that is when the cash will be locked away until knc can fumble out some beta junk sometime in 2014. I am one happy Avenger that knc don't have any of my cash this time. And I'm looking forward to the new year fireworks! Wink