Quote from: Vettech on June 10, 2018, 07:13:43 PM

Hello everyone. I've been silently watching the progression of this coin by researching it, and reading this thread. I come back periodically to check on its progress, but I have not been actively involved at all. There is a reason for this. As a coin investor, I look at the business side of things, and want to make sure my money is well spent and protected. I want to make sure it will grow. As a coin owner, I look at the logistics side of things. I want to see what the developers are doing, the website, the marketing and so on. As far as the coin is concerned and it's functionality, I really like it and would like to see myself involved, however... I've been burned in the past with a few nameless coins and so, I'm very cautious now. I actually stumbled onto this coin by accident and I like it's potential. I'm quite intrigued to see where this coin can go and what you guys do with it. So, now that you know a little about me (and probably many other countless people perusing the internet for potential profit coins), I'll get to my point. I thought it was time to put my two cents worth in and give you a perspective of an outsider looking in. Here are the things I'd like to see or that you can and should consider; and know that I value my time above all else and that all this typing just shows how I see the potential of this coin. That said, lets proceed...

Remember, I'm just an outsider looking in... You may or may not like what I say, but take it all with a grain of salt.

Hi Vettech

It's always nice to encounter someone who's educated on, and interested in, cryptocurrencies. Especially SuperCoin!
I would already like to thank you for taking the time to write your comments down and post them.

I hear what your saying and appreciate your honesty, so here's a short insight in SuperCoin, the team and the community.

As you know, the original developers of SuperCoin handed it over to their successor and left the project a couple of years ago.
The second dev also left to pursue the dev of another coin.
This is where we stepped in. A couple of enthusiasts with a shared passion for SuperCoin. Because we, just like you, see the potential this technology has. And just like you, we want to see it survive and have its value rise back to all time highs.
We're not some big corporation or enterprise, we're a small group of likeminded people.

We try our best to be as active as we can be, but we all have day-time jobs, families and responsibilities with which we have to share our 24h/day.
While this may sound as a bad thing at first, it's actually the opposite once you think about it.

We're not in it for insta-richness.
We don't have a hidden corporate agenda.
We're in it for the passion.
There was a time when nobody was looking after SuperCoin. Hardly any community, no website, no social activity at all, no support... If we hadn't stepped in and started doing however little/much we could I'm sure SuperCoin would currently be in a worse position.

What have we done:
We've created a new website, not flashy or too fancy but at least we have one and the necessary info is on there.
We've created a new btctalk ann with updated info
We've brought together people on discord
We've created a new twitter account
We've updated numerous crypto related websites with up-to-date info on SuperCoin
We'vre reinstated a support mailbox
We're developing a Linux wallet which, should be released soon

I am aware that we have had some sub-optimal communication, even though one of our major our strong points is that we're a community coin. But every important decision is talked about in the discord channel or here on btctalk.
It's hard to be a strong communicator when there's not that much to communicate about.
the last thing we want is to be seen as team who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.
That's why we opted for not spamming the community with pointless updates that say nothing but rather spread the message when something's up.

If you would be interested in joining the core group, we can discuss it in private.

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The coin
Supercoin seems just that, a supercoin. It has so much potential and deserves a whole lot more fanfare than it currently has.

Thanks, we feel the same

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The website:
Your website is too plain. I know you say you want to keep it simple, so on and so on. I understand all that. However you are in a pond with a lot of big fish. You need to stand out above the crowd, or at least blend in. When I look at the website, I don't get excited. My penis stays limp, I shrug my shoulders and I move on. "Keep it moving, nothing exciting to see here". I know it all takes money, but just food for thought. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if you find out the reason why that exchange backed out is as simple as they looked at your website. People want to know their money is well invested and that includes an exchange.

The people actively involved in SuperCoin have a great deal of skills among them, but alas, graphical design is not one of them.
I'm sorry to hear this has brought you physical discomfort. If you want that effect I would suggest SXC ;-)

Back to the essence, the website is hosted by one of our members. Free of charge.
It has no banners or advertisements, which is already more than you can say about a lot of other coins who did get listed on other exchanges.
The design of our website could be related to the exchange refusals (or lack of response) but only for a small part.
One of the main reasons imho is the fact that we wanted to get listed for free.
It's only recently that we've decided to create donation addresses to fund our listing.

According to me, this will make the difference for future listing requests. Together with the linux wallet.

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The things you say:
When I read your posts, they are in generalities. I don't know what exchanges you contacted, I don't know who turned you down, I don't really know anything. It's as if you just write things to appease the readers just to give them something to read. No. You need to put good information in order to get outsiders, investors to want to get involved, to have a view, to give suggestions and so on. There should be back and forth communication, thoughts, ideas tossed around. I want to know detailed information. I want to know who, what, where, when, how and why. The cryptocurrency space is vastly and constantly changing. There is a new exchange at every click of my mouse. Details gentlemen. As an example, this question comes to mind. You say you're trying to find a developer. Ok, where, how, who have you contacted. Heck, maybe I know a developer... Maybe I am a developer. You never know. A developer could read this forum and completely pass you by and you would never even know it. Again, details gentlemen.

I understand, we tried to only bring out the positive news. I see now that this seemed as bait to lure in users while we were supposedly just flicking pencils into the ceiling.
I can assure you, that's not the case.
Ideas do get tossed around on the team's discord and occasionally also on the public channel.

From now on we'll also bring the bad news.

We have repeatedly asked for a developer but never got any replies.
One teammember was going to contact someone he knew but again, no response.

So in the mean time, I'm the Dev working on the linux wallet.
I know my way around this here kom-piu-thor thingy

but I don't write code for a living.

Another blocking point here is the lack of funds.
We've thought about several ways to fund a coder but until recently we did not have a donation wallet.
We do now but haven't made it public yet because we want donators to know what they're donating for.
So once we decide on a price we are willing to afford on a coder or on an exchange we will drop the donation addresses here and on every other social network.

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Just something to ponder:
I know it's exciting for people to have POS and to see those free coins show up. I've been there. But I've also seen it all disappear. So the profit you think you're acquiring and growing is pretty much worthless if the coin turns to nothing. You end up with valueless coins.

I agree completely. SuperCoin POS will end once we reach 50.000.000 coins that's why were not focusing on the POS but rather on the survival and growth of the coin.

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I hope I didn't offend anyone, and know that my words are meant to help. I would like to be involved and an investor and it'll only take a few adjustments in order to make me one.

You didn't

You're respectfully saying what's on your mind, which is appreciated!
I hope our replies didn't offend you either, it's often hard to put the correct emotional tone in a written message.
If it did come across as to aggressive, rest assured this was not the intention

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Furthermore, now I'll be direct. I want to know what exchanges you contacted, etc, etc. Everything. I wouldn't quite commit to octaex.com just yet. It's like with a women, never settle, just because they are the only ones that are biting doesn't mean you should just jump at the chance. Just like there could be a "Hot" babe right around the corner. You are the prize, not her. In this case Supercoin is the prize, not the exchanges. Once you get that frame in your mind corrected, you start having the power. Once I'm satisfied with the effort I see forthcoming in the progression of this coin. I would probably invest, but as I said, I have been burned before. As it stands, I don't mind contributing to get listed, but the listing needs to be a good one, not just whoever decides to accept us. Supercoin is the prize. After all my research on this coin, it's been through hell and back. But you know what... It's still here! Let's take it further.

Cutting to the chase ey?

I'll make a list from the mails and online forms we've used and the reason why we or they chose not to work together.
I'll probably get around to it this weekend.

To be honest, I personally have some doubts about octaex. There's not a lot of consistency in their daily volumes.
They're relatively new and had big volumes in the beginning but now it seems to be dwindling.

Haha, nice comparison

Though it's tough, SuperCoin is currently not a big coin and exchanges want big coins,
But we can't grow if exchanges will not list us.
Unless we pay them more than we can afford.

It's nice to hear you're thinking about investing yet sorry to hear you got burned in the past.
We've all been there and hopefully we've all learned from it. I know I have! And judging by your questions and remarks, so have you.

That's why the only financial advice I can give is to never invest more than you're willing to lose. In crypto/stocks/realty... wherever.

I'm glad you took the time to reach out and I hope the answers above have shed some light for you!

I'll hopefully post the exchange list and results in the next coming days.

Have a nice day!

TG