Quote from: Buff88s_Scam_Victim on June 11, 2018, 02:06:37 AM

Quote from: marlboroza on June 10, 2018, 11:49:39 AM

Quote from: Buff88s_Scam_Victim on June 10, 2018, 09:04:54 AM

As I have wrote previously, I didn't even know making multiple accounts were against terms and conditions.

It is clearly stated in their ToS.

Quote from: Buff88s_Scam_Victim on June 10, 2018, 09:04:54 AM

As I have wrote above this quote, When you register account to certain website which doesn't require detail information such as personal information but only requires email address, who read all of the Terms and Condition? Seriously?

This is not excuse for breaking ToS.

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At this time, withdrawal amount was small, so I think they have approved my request. And they have mentioned about I have account "B" and "C", and they have suspended "B" account.
Well, I have created new account (Account "C"), but "B" Account they have suspended was account of my colleague's from my company.

Whos account is account A?
So you violated their ToS with 2 accounts, they limited one account, banned the other one and then you created third account?
You are basically saying it is OK for you to break ToS but if they enforce the same terms it is not OK.

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Since our company have 1 main IP address for outbound, Buff88.com thought these were all my accounts.

ToS:
One personal single account pertaining to one domestic household address or IP address

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In Fortunejack.com, do you confiscate player's winning and original deposited money if you find that player have breached terms and conditions? or do you just confiscate winnings and reimburse original deposited money back to player?

You should ask that FortuneJack's support.

I'm not denying that I have violated the terms and conditions of Buff88.com. Main point of what I'm saying here is that, 'is it legal to confiscate original deposited fund if you violate terms and condition?'.

As I have said many times in above, I totally understand buff88.com confiscated my winnings, but why don't they reimburse my original deposited fund which is about 500 euro worth of bitcoin!!

What is your opinion about this?

This is clearly proving that buff88.com is a scam site, because they stole my money!

And about the accounts question:

Account A - My First created account which got limited to accessing live casino but able to access sports bet
Account B - My Colleague Account which created in same IP range due to same outbound IP
Account C - My Second created account

Here is the step by step of the history.

1. While I was playing live casino with Account A (before I got limited from live casino) I told my colleague about buff88.com and he created Account B for him to play. At this time there was no problem at all.

2. One day, my Account A was limited to accessing live casino without any detail reason.

3. I created Account C (I didn't know making additional account was breaching terms and conditions at this time), and played live casino

4. One day, I receive email from buff88.com that I have registered account B and account C with same IP, so buff88.com have banned account B, but let account C to play. (At this point, I realized making multiple account is breaching terms and condition)
But, buff88.com have not banned account C, so I thought it was ok to play with and I continued to play.

5. With Account C, I kept lost money and there was no problem at all (Played for while)

6. One day, I decide to deposit about 500 euro worth bitcoin to play and I was lucky and I won some money from Black Jack and requested for withdrawal, and this time buff88.com blocked my account and stole all of my money.

When buff88.com found out that 2 accounts(B and C) are registered in same IP, they should have already know Account A was also registered in same IP. But they didn't do anything about it until I won money!

If buff88.com is very secured and legit online betting/casino, they should have blocked all of my accounts, but they have let me played and when I was losing, they just kept letting me play, but they suddenly blocked me when I won money.

What do you think this means? Do you think they just forgot to blocked me? from very secured website?? hmm..

This is what I think, buff88.com just waited until I deposit and lose certain amount of money before blocking my account.

Buff88.com need to reimburse my money as soon as possible!

The answer is very easy and simple.

As Buff88 let you continue using account C, knowing it is not your only account, then they can not later confiscate your deposit and winnings claiming breach of their T&C. This is standart civil law, because they explicitly allowed you using account C.

However, the scam scheme these shady operators commit is letting all accounts play as long as they lose and this totally independent of having the same IP or device.

Only in case of winnings, then suddenly the number of accounts or same IP plays a role! But in your case, as they explicitly allowed to continue using your account C, their claim has no legal basis at all.