Quote from: tempus on June 12, 2018, 08:10:52 PM

Quote from: RLodbrok on June 12, 2018, 06:51:43 PM

@ NakiRR

Where is this "rule", which makes it impossible to refund investors, coming from?

If until today they haven't spent a lot of the funds for their project, it should still be available on their wallets. And if they have full access to it, they theoretically could refund investors maybe by about 90%...i don't get it where the problem is.

Still waiting for an official giving a statement to this.

If it's not possible to legally force them to refund those who would want that, they won't do it.

One thing about Savedroid is obvious: They like it very much to point on others, on the greed and the lack of sustainability in the market, on the high listing prices on certain exchanges which are economically not rational out of Savedroid-perspective but "moon-prices". They like it to talk about transparency and educating others, they like to present themselves as serious and reputable.

But....

They used the ICO-Hype to make as much money as possible, they used everything to hype ("Top5-Exchange secured!" - "it's possible to invest with many other cryptocurrencies" - "here is a price-prediction chart" - "made in Germany" etc.) while they could never explain why a little Startup that wants to develop an App needs more money as many of the projects who are leading today (Ethereum, Neo, Binance, etc.)

They could never explain why their token-economy could ever be worth the high price they've already given it during the ICO. And just btw: They also don't give numbers about the burning-rate while they like it to let their Investors believe that the burning will give real value to the token while the whole company is not near to be worth what they got in the ICO.

They could never explain how it's possible to be sure that their PR-Stunt would not have bad impact on the future price - which Yassin said in an interview.

And when it's about transparency.... what do they let their Investors know? Whenever it's about the important aspects they simply say "trust us".

Any informations about Exchange-Listing? --> "trust us"
How much SVD will be burned of each fee? --> "a certain percentage, just trust us"
Do you really need that much money? --> "trust us"
Was the exchange-voting legtit? ---> "trust us"
How did you come to the price-chart? How was it calculated? --> "trust us"
The PR-Stunt will not have bad effect for the price? ---> "trust us"
etc...

They have the real money now and it's naive to believe that hypocrites like that will give any of that back if they have the chance to keep it. Otherwise they would have refunded already because many wanted that the day after their PR-Stunt. But, what was their reason again?

"The project did not change."

And that's true, because already long before their PR-Stunt, during their ICO, there have been red flags.

On top of all that, the Savedroid AG actually hast 3 members on their executive board. All three of them are in/on there _with their very own companies_, 2 GmbH (equivalent to an US LLC) and Hankir himself with another AG (Aktiengesellschaft)
(corporation/inc.).

So they simply need to start to send themself some invoices....... aaaaaaand....

It's looking really crazy when you just lift the blanket on top of that mess.........

Hacky