Quote from: VolanicEruptor on December 16, 2013, 10:22:20 PM

Cointerra, however has compensated its customers. EVERYBODY (except you) is extremely happy with them right now.

What's so hard to understand about this, Icebreaker?

testerx is not "extremely happy with them right now." How could you possibly miss this post? Your selective outrage is showing. Wink

Quote from: testerx on December 16, 2013, 05:46:49 PM

So I spoke with Cointerra today and apparently I really am one of the few idiots who didn't switch batches since apparently the December batch is now very small compared to the January batch. Guess I should have switched batches along with everyone else since the early January orders will be shipping immediately after the December batch is done. Doh.

Cointerra had to have known they couldn't possible deliver in December.

Yet they took orders for December, and charged a huge premium for their earliest deliver date.

Then they waited until December to announce the December batch wasn't coming until January at the earliest.

Cointerra blatantly lied about delivery schedule. They won't even have the chips from the foundry until a week after their "expected" ship date.

Cointerra 100% knew from day 1 there is no possible way they could ship in December. Period.

They could have been honest and sold rigs for late Jan delivery and a much lower price. But they LIED to their customers so they could charge more per GH/s.

They lied because they wanted to sell "Dec delivery" units at Dec delivery prices. They "could" have sold Jan delivery units but that would have required much lower prices.

It is fraud, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

fraud (noun)
1. wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

They criminally deceived their customers using false claims in order to gain from that deception. Dec delivery was not possible. It wasn't that it was too optimistic, it is IMPOSSIBLE. They knew that, yet made the claim anyways because it means more millions in their pockets.

They committed fraud to enrich themselves at the expense of their customers.

Cointerra lied to their customers to overcharge for products they had no ability to deliver. They increased their selling price 200% at the expense of the customers they lied to.