Quote from: Biomech on December 19, 2013, 02:39:03 AM

Quote from: clenell on December 18, 2013, 08:57:44 PM

"crickets"

Puppet is a good source of information. He also jumps newbies. It's not a good dichotomy, but there it is.

I've not been specifically in his sights like some others, but I do want to comment on something I keep noticing (actually not that much from Puppet, but from quite a few others who have been on for a long time). That's the "have it both ways" mentality. I got jumped for being a newbie with opinions the day I started posting. Yet in reality I had been on the fora for over two months. I just didn't bother to register until I had something to say. Which turned out to be an annoyance due to newbie jail (my own failure, had I registered while reading I would have had all the necessary time online, and five posts ain't shit).

But there it is. Everyone starts somewhere. Being a new guy doesn't mean anything, really. People are always yelling to read, but if you take the time to do so, they yell for you being a new guy with a low post count.

How 'bout looking to content ahead of time in service, eh? Is that such an egregious paradigm?

I'd like to hear from just one of the newbie bashers on this. The one who never tripped over his dick on a forum. I've never met this guy, and despite being rather new here, I've been on BBS's since the late 70's. Everybody is a newbie at some point. And as you noted, along with others, Bitcoin is gaining traction in the media. A couple weeks back it was on the front page of the Idaho Statesman, and that paper has over a hundred year history of being late to the party.

On topic, I really hope AMT pulls it off. They are within reach of me if I can raise the money. I like the idea of walking in with cash and out with a mining machine.

True words brother, I'm a BFL's owner from early last year and looked over posts here often not needing to post, until looking over the new 28nm vendor wave (and scams) and then thought to see if I can find a good manufacturer to get behind, but this 28nm is still so bleeding edge its somewhat reminiscent of 65nm BFL claim days, still it isn't months delay or year that many of us experienced with BFL...still with BTC instability it does make one wonder are we gonna the miss boat? This urgency is certainly driving a lot of angst here in this and other threads, but as customer I'm still hopeful they will deliver ontime? Timing does have me concerned, but they are assembler not the manufacturer, manufacturer led delays can't be blamed on AMT directly, but at the same time they need to work with Bitmine or sources to maintain timing commitments to their customers. As it's early days on 28nm ASIC manufacturing for bitcoin chip production it's likely difficult to do this yet. If the market survives the variability...at some point Miners really need to band together to get some currency stability if we want it to grow?