Quote from: BenRickert on June 17, 2018, 11:08:30 PM

Quote from: SplinterZalinsk on June 17, 2018, 03:03:19 PM

Quote from: BenRickert on June 17, 2018, 01:10:14 PM

Quote from: SplinterZalinsk on June 17, 2018, 03:29:39 AM

Quote from: BenRickert on June 16, 2018, 08:04:45 PM

Quote from: SplinterZalinsk on June 16, 2018, 06:49:50 PM

That's SO SO bad... in SO many levels!!!! It's unbelievable!!!!! Shocked

The email I received was from Bitmain's official email!!!! It's very very easy to fall in this fraud (even for experienced miners)!!! I feel SO bad for the people who fell in that shit.............. Cry

The way it was done, Bitmain is guilty and must take the consequences for it. It's not fair that people suffer such astronomical damage as that. No doubt that Bitmain has responsibility for what happened...

How is this Bitmain's fault? I don't agree with everything they do but I've dealt with them extensively for a while and I have always been treated well by them. They are not the Villains people would like to portray them as. In the end we are all responsible for our decisions. Can't blame others. Life's not fair. Never was and never will be. This is a very difficult space to navigate in. It's new and there are no rules. We ALL have the ultimate responsibility to protect ourselves and others when we can, but in the end, WE are responsible. That's why I made this thread. To hopefully save a few people. Truth is, people get greedy and make bad decisions clouded by greed. On BOTH sides of the fence. Just be vigilant and don't lose your discipline. SCAMS are getting MORE and MORE sophisticated because there is a LOT of money at stake. Look at this ASICminer.com scam that is going on. I don't think that's even a real company. Yet they have videos and websites and idiots putting phony reviews on YouTube. The less people that fall for this shit the less these maggots will gain. Be careful and be VIGILANT.

No man, you didn't understand... how many times have you received an email from a BIG company (from their REAL servers), but was actually a fraud? If that were common and "acceptable", the email would have been extinguished a long time ago... The problem is not the email as vulnerable technology... many serious huge companies work every day with much more important data and money by email with their customers and partners. The problem is the lack of security on Bitmain servers! That's why Bitmain is guilty for that. If you had received an email from Nvidia's OFFICIAL email for example, with all your REAL data (including your address!!!) offering some kind of discount and you were fooled by it (again... coming from the OFFICIAL email with your REAL data)... the reason for this would have been purely a security breach of Nvidia and you can be sure that if you proved to have made the payment, they would take some action to reimburse you and everyone who was harmed. Any serious company would do that. If the email had been sent from another server, not from Bitmain's email server, then you would be right... But is NOT the case!

It was NOT sent from Bitmain's Server. The Emails just had the NAME of the Bitmain address masked onto the title. If it really was Bitmain's server you could reply to the email. You could not reply to these emails. This happens constantly with other "large companies". We get scam-mail from PayPal, Amazon, Apple, Google email look a likes, ALL THE TIME. It's the way of the World my friend. Never underestimate how big of pieces of shit human beings are. Always have been and always will be.

Yes... we agree on parts and I know that phishing emails happens all the time. But I've never seen anything like that... I never received a fraudulent email with the sender showing up as 'contact@paypal.com' or 'noreply@paypal.com'... is always 'contact@playpal.com', 'roreply@pay-pal.com' or something like that... AND what we can't ignore is that the email contained our confidential data which only Bitmain should know... which makes the situation even more serious and worrying. I recommend that everyone at least active the 2-factor authenticator and change the password on Bitmain site asap.

Bitmain has been telling us to do that for almost a year. Just to be fair. really, in any secure environment....why would you NOT?

Absolutely... I've changed my password several times. Change your password again even if you changed it less than 1 month ago and be aware that if you have a Bitmain account, your data can easily leak at any time.