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I quite like the Clam project so I wanted to help secure the network so I bought 30k clams to stake with. On average my node gets around 24 clams a day. The problem however is that I lose between 3-8 Clams/day again, they disapear shortly after I found them and they show up as 'Conflicted' in the transaction list. So on bad days I lose about 1/3 of my yield which is pretty frustrating to say the least. Any suggestions?

You lost out to other nodes that also mined the same block. It's just one of those annoying things that PoS is infamous for.

Thanks for the reply bro.

So I lose 1/3 of the yield I'm 'entitled' to? That's just terrible. So I have to buy like a bunch of Computers that act as support nodes, 50 of them or something, so when I find a clam the other 49 (within the home network) immediately broadcast it at almost the same time to the outside. And so if the outside competition has less nodes, I win the Clam.

So it seems like an armsrace for support nodes, I wish I knew this before starting this moneysink. Somebody should put that info on the first page in the clam introduction.

The guy from Just-Dice probably knows this and has an army of support nodes running. So it's basically his coin and newbs like me can only lose their money/profits.

I don't believe your actually losing anything. The block that ended up orphaned, will simply continue to stake at the same weight it had prior to the orphan. Next check your system clock, and make sure it's synced to an accurate time source. I don't think having extra nodes would end up helping you. I believe once you get a stake, the block gets a time stamp. The earliest time stamp wins.

Thanks for the tip on checking the system clock, I'll check on that right away.

I added 4 support nodes, so I will get back with my findings coming days. First impression seems I lose less today, but might be coincidence we'll see, I only just finished installing them as I prepared for this test a few days ago, took some time to install the clients. So it's too soon to draw any conclusions. If they get time stamped, it shouldn't make any difference like you say.

EDIT: well it seems I do lose 1/3 of my profit as the difficulty/my stake = find time (on average 24 a day, so when 8 disapear I lose right?) As in the protocol itself indicates I should get 24 a day but I only get 16 because 8 get taken away, how is that not losing profit/losing my reward for help securing the chain? I wouldn't bother if it's like 1 clam once in a while, but losing between 3-8 out of 24/day is not acceptable.

You should get 24 valid stakes per day. If you got 8 orphans, you should see 24 +8 or 32 transactions, of which only 24 are valid. But this is just on average. So I wouldn't look at just one day at a time. look at your average over a week, or 2, or a month. That should show you closer to the 24 per day average. I don't stake Clams anymore, but when I did I remember the daily average fluctuated quite a bit, but seemed to average out when you looked at it over the longer periods.

Let us all know if adding the nodes helped or not.

The problem is it doesn't make up for the orphans so I just see the '24' transactions which includes the ones I lost, there are no '32' in the list of transactions at the end of the day. Been staking for like 2 weeks so I have data of 14 days and it averages out on 24/day (including the lost ones).

I can already confirm that the extra nodes theory is not valid, I already lost 2 again in a few hours. So my apologies if I stepped on someone's toes for entertaining the idea.

I changed the clock now, hopefully that fixes it. If so I'll send you a pm and you can give me your bitcoin donation address if you want, so I can express my appreciation. Cheers.