Quote from: theymos on June 25, 2018, 03:16:59 AM

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Quote from: criz2fer on June 25, 2018, 09:07:09 AM

Hope this request will be granted. It would be great to join a discussion with real members rather than spammers that would only shit post.
50 merit requirement could be a great ceiling for a member rank. Just an opinion.

I suggest to lift up current merit requirements of lower ranks, 10 merits for Junior member and 25 merits for member.
Full member and above ranks remains current merit requirements.
This new lift-up merit requirements for Junior and Member rank will reduce spamming endemic, which has not stopped yet after the launch day of merit system.

Limiting newbie participation is very harmful for a community. Newbie jail will never return: I consider the newbie-jail period to have been extremely damaging to the forum. When barriers to participation are too high, then the best people often just won't go to the trouble of joining, and the people who are willing to jump through the hoops are often people who aren't good for the community: people with nothing better to do, scammers, get-rick-quickers, etc. Having a permanent newbie jail policy would improve things a lot in the short-term, but would end up being a fatal poison to the community.

I think, you just think about winning yourself, yes, you have got a pretty big rank here. And you will think of helping to try to remove spammer, who is dominated by small rank, Newbie. And I read a lot of posts and comments, since the new rules (Jr Members need 1 merit) newbie rank is getting oppressed here.
Let's see, why is Newbie so hated this end → being considered a spammer → why is there a spammer? - because there is a prize for that (wherever there is a spammer, there must be income for him).

Why only see a Newbie account as a spammer? Surely you think, it's easy enough, just create an account (without the need for quality contributions), follow the campaign, and get a prize.
And I, Newbie account owner think otherwise, why don't you see a spammer at a higher rank, and bully him too? Don't you think, a high rank account with a lot of merit will not produce multi-account users or spam workers to join the prize campaign?
In fact it is higher than the income of a Newbie account spammer. Just imagine.

If there are still gift systems that rely on high rank accounts as a requirement and a high number of prizes, such as the Signature Campaign. Believe me, spammers and multi-account cheating will still be there. Think about this, this is the task of forum developers.

And introduce me to beginners, first I join this forum, just look at the point of view of Bounty. Yes, it's very natural to be interested in earning income rather than other topics, but I don't immediately understand how to join a bounty campaign, so I search and read a number of related posts on how to follow the Bounty and over time to increase knowledge, I am also interested in reading other topics. Well here are the main uses of the forum.
And the purpose of speaking as above, I want to voice the opinion of a Newbie, that we are also like you first, but we join at different times, forum is advanced, and many rivals to make quality posts and help, and even quality posts are not guaranteed to get merit . Merit is good for sharing.
Our enemy is now a spammer, because we feel oppressed here because of that.
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Quote from: shield132 on June 26, 2018, 08:38:28 PM

Don't want to be rude but almost everyone from the creation of forum talks the same shit about this forum, brain is just....
Yeah people spam here but don't read shit topics if that makes you anxious and why to read something unvaluable? Also did you ask question and not get answer? Has that ever happened? I bet noo... Community is amazing here, I know some people who helped me a lot, really a lot. Just ignore spammers and keep using forum...

Believe me, your statement does not help, and will make things worse if done. Just imagine, like in a school class, you can get knowledge, values, awards from within. As you say, who will let cheaters, cheaters get good grades or praise from the teacher? That will produce something worse in the future.