Quote from: User_513 on December 25, 2013, 05:57:04 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on December 24, 2013, 05:35:44 AM

Quote from: Wilikon on December 24, 2013, 01:51:31 AM

It was amazing to see hardcore leftists defending everything he was doing simply because he wasn't bush.....

Not really. The smear campaign against Bush was well funded and started early. What you call hardcore leftists were just the useful idiots of the moment. They heard, they repeated, they hated like they were told.

ANYONE who believes that they have a right to install some 'leader' or another over their neighbors is a useful idiot to TPTB. If YOU have no right to force your neighbor to do something, how do you gain a right to grant to some politician to do that for you, magical incantations?

Yep. I agree with all that. Magical incantations of fear over global warming and climate doom help, of course, for the politicians to get the power over their neighbors that they want.

I was just going over the particulars vis a vis Bush.

Problem is you can't have your cake and eat it too. Know what I mean?