Quote from: Gyfts on July 05, 2018, 04:44:52 AM

The trade deficits the US has to deal with are pretty unique because the US owes billions to countries like Canada and Mexico and trillions to a country like China. Fair trade means more tariffs and those tariffs get passed onto the consumers through higher cost goods.

You can't win in trade wars. It's matter of who gives in first and who's willing to take the most damage to their economies.

I think you don't understand the american economical context, and should read the post of Baddecker about the "Manchurian candidate" aka the abomination or the freak show of corruption, deceit, manipulation and dishonesty... sadly this treasonous admin wasn't the first nor certainly the last.

However what they did, can be undone. You consider the trade resolution settlement process has having a victor. But you don't understand what victory means and for whom.

first of all the american side, has been hollowed out, most manufacturing jobs have been exported to international more competitive markets, be it for social regulations, environmental savagery or state support mostly with corrupt aims, i.e. exclusively for the benefits of the local ruling class. You will maybe answer that those jobs needed to be outsourced for purely accounting principle. Sadly, it makes sense that manufacturing what ever at the cheapest (socially, environmentally and corruptly) can make sense, but does it in a really informed market? Do you want what ever to produced at the expanse of the earth ecoystem, at the expense of entire population reduced to slavery or only supporting a tiny corrupt local ruling class that will want to impose its ways over you if allowed to do so? I don't think so, if not supported by the fake news complex.

Where you can have the shitest of all the shitholes in the world, pay enough and get positive coverage, same for the most horrible products. But beyond those ethical considerations, that may be over the hearth of most people, seeing how industrial animals are handled, there is the accept of know how.

How to do this product. And I don't think it is a great idea to have all this know how outside of the usa, the logistical know how and infrastructures, the energy distribution and production, how a modern manufacturing positive thrive. This mindset can be lost, and for me this mean to lose the trade war. America from the manufacturing hub of the world, become a nation of salesmen, marketer and various financialized traders moving mostly wind... and yes this gig economy, from the little hand made harmonica to the quadrillions of debt is great, but isn't well adapted to manufacture death.

And this is the question, beyond the rhetoric, who do you want to manufacture death? as your answer to this question is happily irrelevant, the question more appropriate to you, why only death? Made in America with Love

! why led panels or solar cells or cars and everything needed to make those products should be exported?

Because underlying this there is the reliability of the foreign trading partners. We can see how easily corruption, deceit and treason can infect D.C. if let unmonitored and eliminated, that the so called allies, even if today being perfect angel of peace, who knows what they will do or become tomorrow?

of course they are all bitching, about the american manufacturing rebirth project, but how could they not see it coming, and worst not already be adapted to it? As if the corruption in D.C. was going to last until the stealth end of america...

Now the others are in a deep shit, they have geared and positioned their economies as unhealthy leeches of american wealth, and sadly, it seems that this admin isn't interested in american becoming a thailand pataya where the only promise for american girls is prostitution.

and frankly a knowledge economy can't expand without the manufacturing base to see its ideas becomes goods who help others achieve more, american made.

but then again, myself I would consider this trade war a defeat, is if the manufacturing transfer was being made ecologically or socially unheatlhy. I would be ashamed to see Wisconsin water polluted and even more disappointing to see that an opportunity to deploy provably clean manufacturing and the related business was missed. Since when does foxcon wisconsin can't produce the same output quality that it takes in (water, air, electromagnetic, radiation, etc). All of those mitigations, of course and sadly have to be legislated so that there is a fair honest and clean market field.

for example with this plant, if a kid in the area has an idea about a product amelioration he can see one of his neighbor who may work or know someone there to make this project move along. The mushrooming of american manufacturing. Saldly, again not worth it if it is the next million year pollution source. But this is the idea of the "trade war".

and more importantly fully MAGA compliant.

recap:

role of fake news in fostering the destruction of the usa is confirmed.
manufacturing is good, fun, amusing and innovative while done cleanly.
we can do much more than the death machine.

then what's great america has just to defend and expand while being able to chose when and where and how to fight those who try to oppose the american rebirth in anyway shape or form. the real difficulty is how to explain to allies that yes, they are still and as long as they want to be allies, but that it means more than putting a facade. And here I am looking at the legislative framework, meaning that it is clear that america is struggling to get out of one its maybe biggest episode of total corruption, ruin and treason and that it is necessary for foreign nation to take necessary precautions, like for example opposing the contamination of the food chain and ecosystem with genetic mutant plants but there is no question that free speech a real reporting factual and researching press or a free of corruption state are key objective that they should purse to more integration.

because this is the things, if reliance there must be, the price become way more expansive. what is sad is how corrupt politicians will close the debate, reduce the ideas of possible to only foster their little gains... the price tag for a super career is 13b... with a single all the estate of those politicians can be gone worldwide in a few days.

as the legions would have said, if the swamp has to be drained, the swamp will be drained.

I hope you can now define what constitute for you a victory? and then if you can have points to refere to the score. for example for me a clean 1.3b wisonsin plant with clean outputs is a great point toward victory

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and don't worry if you want to go to the ancient academian version: the biggest army with the biggest self manufacturing base and ressource access wins, no matter what but bad luck, #thedinosaurshavefallen

Quote from: MisO69 on July 05, 2018, 01:22:21 PM

I'm hoping all these trade wars fuck up economies and fiat currencies all over the world. hehe.. Then everyone starts to buy BTC since its the only currency going up in value. Everyone accepts BTC and the world now runs on it. Sure, alts too. The end.

I like the dollar note... in god we trust

. but I like equally your fundamentalism, keeping the sha2 pow spirit alive

. More interestingly, I love love to be able to have a budget explorer, like block explorer to see public spending to the lowest fraction, and see where leaks happen (corruption pools) and have access to this data. It would be great for the free constitutional reporting inquiring press, and a nightmare for fake news to have all their sponsors income sources exposed.

to improve the efficiency, transparency and accountability of public spending.

Quote from: allthingsluxury on July 05, 2018, 03:08:15 PM

Regardless of your opinions on him, at least America finally got a politician that does what he says. It has been a long time coming.

#lockherup #buildthewall #abortionisgodgivenrightliketherighttobeararms #plantsoftheearthwillnotbegenocided #whatreallyhappenedon911 #draintheswampandjailthepedos #whereismymoney

Quote from: popcorn1 on July 06, 2018, 06:52:30 PM

Quote from: BADecker on July 01, 2018, 07:54:20 PM

Slap tariffs on products from all countries entering the USA. Reduce USA manufacturing regs, the only thing keeping Americans from manufacturing everything that is imported. Get rid of the income tax by replacing it with tariff money. Best ideas I have heard so far.

Besides, the homos are too sleazy to work, so we will automatically get rid of them when the welfare stops.

Cool

Religious and you don't the welfare of others 👏🏻🤑🤑.welfare for massive companies

your writing is degrading faster than tommy tan.

welfare for massive companies who then pay massive political contributions to specific political party and the presstitutes.

Quote from: BADecker on July 07, 2018, 02:25:27 AM

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on July 05, 2018, 03:12:56 AM

Quote from: BADecker on July 02, 2018, 02:00:50 AM

Increase (China) import tariffs even higher.
Higher tariffs = no need for income tax at all.
Lack of a few resources = more American ingenuity for better products without foreign resources.
World instability that threatens America means American ingenuity needs to take over the world to create peace.
The world submits to American greatness, and bows its knees to Americans.
America becomes more powerful than ever.
Jesus salvation is powerfully preached worldwide by Americans.
This being the last Bible sign to be fulfilled, ushers in the return of Jesus.
People go to Heaven or Hell.
The new heavens and the new earth come into being, while this universe is destroyed in the lake of fire.
... All because of Trump tariffs.

Cool

income tax isn't made to finance the gov, but to permit to the establishment to know which are the new income source in the market.

it is a nice vision that you have here, specially the belief about ingenuity, specially in the context of lack of a few resources, sadly, I think that some are unavoidable and easier bought or taken than replaced.

america can't rule the world if it can't rule america first. and as we can see most of the greatest worldwide american criminals are still free today and their work of deception, deceit and ruins still going on.

what can't control itself isn't great, and the idea of bowing to, remembers me the ask of a certain king...

american powerfullness has been under assault by many previous admin, whose executioners are still all roaming free.

when the bible become the only field of view... the only way to interact with the world...

People don't care about the reason for income tax as much as the removal of it. So, who cares why it goes away. When there is no apparent need in the eyes of the people, government will have to reduce taxes just to keep the people from finding out that there was never any need for it in the first place.

But the point for this thread is, give the people freedom by removing them from slavery to the rest of the world = import tariffs.

Washington Times awakens to the truth that once seemed bizarre: Obama was a "sleeper cell"

Quote from: http://www.dcclothesline.com/2018/07/06/washington-times-awakens-to-the-truth-that-once-seemed-bizarre-obama-was-a-sleeper-cell-in-the-white-house/

In a December 2015 column, Natural News founder and editor Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, wrote that President Obama was a "sleeper cell" and he was overseeing the destruction of American traditions, culture, security, and liberty.

"As President Obama is about to make a televised speech this evening, it's important that America realize who he really is. Obama is a sleeper cell who's intent is the deliberate destruction of America's culture, economy and national defense. When President Obama speaks, he's speaking not as an American, but as a radical communist Muslim pretending to be an American," he wrote.

As you can imagine, while the column was widely read Adams was widely mocked, especially by members of the pretend media.

But as it turns out, Adams isn't the only one who thinks Obama was a "Manchurian candidate." He was just one of the first ones.

In an analysis for the Washington Times published July 1, L. Todd Wood, a graduate of the U.S. Air Force Academy who flew special operations helicopters supporting SEAL Team 6, Delta Force and others, wrote of his conclusion, "If you look at the evidence, there really is no other conclusion. The calamitous consequences of the Obama presidency will be felt for the foreseeable future."

The term "Manchurian candidate" comes from a novel by that name written in 1959 by Richard Condon. It is about the son of a prominent U.S. political family who is brainwashed into becoming an unwitting assassin for a Communist conspiracy.

Obviously, Obama wasn't an assassin but the point Adams and Wood are making is that he wasn't who he said he was, either that his real objective wasn't to be president but to subvert our country and weaken it.

Why else would Obama have done all these things?

But Wood notes that Americans have an ace in the hole President Donald Trump, who, over the course of 17 months has managed to reverse many of Obama's worst policies, including extracting us from the horrible Iran 'nuclear deal.'

"The speed with which Trump has been able to turn things around points to the diabolical depths the Obama administration went in order to undermine our national strength and way of life," Wood writes. "All Trump had to do was stop doing things that hurt America; America could then take care of itself. The results are plain as day."

That said, Wood believes it will take "decades" for the damage Obama did over eight years to be completely undone because the "deviousness of the Obama sedition runs deep."

He cites these examples:

Read more at http://www.dcclothesline.com/2018/07/06/washington-times-awakens-to-the-truth-that-once-seemed-bizarre-obama-was-a-sleeper-cell-in-the-white-house/.

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frankly, arresting all the individuals that orbited around him and his accomplice hitlary would be a first step before getting the queen (hillary) and then see how this investigation move... but sadly, this is clearly something that the trump admin is so reluctant to purse that it is slowing the maga agenda.

those people, because it is way beyond a potus have to be round up and clearly eliminated for the crimes they have committed.

otherwise all this verbiage about making america great again, trade war blah blah would be like putting a suit on the body a child dying of cancer.

MAD = sure to win by dying.

how to win a trade war, or simply make maga when an executive in flint michigan can kill people with impunity can anything be build in such conditions? local to international corruption resonate... and if let uncheck, can amplify until destroying everything it touched.

don't forget potus 44 is just a piece, important one, but none the less not to be seen as the lightning rod of jupiter, but as a little ant working for a nefarious colony whose aim is death and destruction, and in this context focusing would make us unaware of certainly way bigger creature in the global swamp pounds.

it's funny how when one national swamp is understood in the others become very similar. "the spontaneous apparition and growth of corruption in a society always follow the same sewer, is just the recipe that are execrated that change

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anyway, what ever the previous regime did against america can be undone, and replace by greatness

to the moon and beyond !