Quote from: Puppet on December 28, 2013, 06:43:05 PM

FFS try to read before posting. Did you read the link I posted where AMT claimed:

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Customers in the EU will not have to pay VAT or Import taxes

Um, because they are shipping an EU-product to EU, possibly from EU... dumbass. Thus, no VAT, or "They are not charging VAT, because it is already included in the price." Not 100% sure, but if it was MFG in EU, and shipped to EU, I think that qualifies it for "non VAT goods". Doesn't take long to fly over there and assemble a few machines at a friends house/office. Also doesn't cost them that much, for them, if they value the boards at the prices they paid for them. (Just because YOU pay $6000 for the item, doesn't make the VAT they pay, on $6000. That is only if they don't pay it, then you get charged on that price, as that is the only price you have proof of, for value. It is not the same for a business. Who also does not pay "consumer-level shipping prices.")

Seems you are confusing "individual MSRP", with "volume purchases". THEY are not paying what YOU pay, when you buy just 1-8 miners. THEY have worked out a deal, buying THOUSANDS of boards, for less than MSRP. Do you think Best-Buy is getting alien-ware computers for $3,000 and selling for $3,000, because the website says $3,000. That is what the website charges a single customer, if they are dumb enough to pay for it from that website. The stores get the computers for about $1,500 and sell for $2,800 which is how stores often sell cheaper than the websites. Why, because they are buying in bulk, and because the price MSRP on the website makes the store price of $2,800 look like a bargain.

Miners are the same thing. BFL will gladly sell you ONE or TEN for $22,000. However, if you call them and say, "Hey, I want 2,000 miners.", they will not hesitate to sell them for $11,000 each, because it is only about $2,000 in physical equipment. Same with all ASIC chips. Now that they are in full production, I am sure the hardware costs are down to about 1/10th the asking price. So we, by demand, are paying 1000% more then it costs to produce them, from the MFG, as a small-order consumer. Welcome to the world of technology.

(Though I still suspect BFL of using your hardware, and delaying shipment, because they were simply mining with your hardware first. For the purpose of getting more BTC. Thus, using the customers for their own "stock" of miners, and subsequently, using them to purchase the used miners, once they were essentially worthless to mine with. Even the block-chain reinforced that theory. After shipping all the units, difficulty never climbed. But prior to shipment, it skyrocketed. How did that happen?!?!?! lol. Oh, they were just testing them for three months, to be sure it worked. lol.)

I-phone costs of production is about $45-$65, sells for $450-$650 each. Buy 10,000 of them, you get them for only $225-$325 each. buy 100,000 and you get them for $112.50-$162.50 each.

Puppet, you are seriously living up to the title of your name... you are a puppet. You have no interest in buying, so just go away. Go buy more 7970's dressed-up as new cards, paying the same price for the same power-hungry cards, and go back to mining alt-coins. You obviously got burned by buying an overpriced ASIC, and need someone to take it out on. Go take it out on the person responsible for your actions... You.

As for delays... those delays are on NEW ORDERS... AMT has had these orders in for months. Those delays are not for units previously purchased, those delays are for units/chips being purchased now. Because of the volume of OLD PURCHASES that had to be filled. (Of which, AMT is part of.) Thus, why everyone is pushing back dates, and prices.

P.S. That multi-million dollar cash-out that just happened over the last few hours... Guess what that was for... Purchasing more miners, in bulk. (Not at a consumer level.) Expect a big BTC value price hike soon. Along with a future massive Diff-hike by income-tax time, in the 2nd week of March. (See the trend?) BTC to $6000... What will you have, miners making BTC, or BTC that you cashed-out, because you thought this price-hike was over? We went from millions of dollars listed on 15 exchanges, to billions of dollars listed on 38 in a month. Next will be trillions of dollars on 120 exchanges. (Which includes all the legitimate and larger forex exchanges now adopting BTC.)

P.P.S. AMT, update your website... Friday the 27th is over... Also, fix the Weight and Dimensions info for the 1.2THs... one says 18LBs, the other details says 8LBs... Sizes are also off an inch or two, between the two pages. (Redundant info anyways, list the info on one tab or the other, not both.)

P.P.P.S. Hardware is no longer growing exponentially, only the volume of hardware being purchased is growing exponentially, which will also soon stop. THs watches and cell-phones are coming, but that will be the last line of advancement. I-Miner coming soon, to a store near you! Walmart discount, $300, 100THs units, sold by the millions, right next to MP3-players and Tablets and Video-Games. Made in China, a day late and a dollar short. Release date, Summer 2015. Pre-order now!