Quote from: bitspender on July 10, 2018, 04:29:18 PM

Gonna jump in here. So Lobos & Bjorn (BetterBets team) raises a bunch of money by creating RBIES, then ditches it to do another ICO (Janus, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1677509.0), and no one blames them for the mess RBIES is in? They raised all the money from RBIES and all the money from Janus and have nothing to show for it? How is that not scammer tagged?

There's a difference between a failed business and a scam though. Perhaps there was some criminality involved, but it's not obviously so.

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Looks like dogedigital is in over their head on a promise he made to sustain price of RBIES, not a scam but also not good looks.

That's the clear scam territory. MoneyPot made a hard promise to support the price of rubies, directly and indirectly profited on it -- and then when it came time to fulfill their promise -- they just laughed at people who believed them (and DogeDigital has even gone so far as to leave negative trust on two people who complained about being scammed). This puts it in unambiguous scam territory.

My hypothesis is that MP will/is buy backing back the now worthless rubies for cents on the dollar and then once they acquire enough announce they are "now" honoring their promise, and thus they did nothing wrong and banking on people forgetting how they screwed their most loyal customers.