Quote from: pitt59 on July 15, 2018, 01:19:58 PM

Quote from: dmwardjr on July 14, 2018, 05:03:52 AM

Quote from: pitt59 on July 12, 2018, 01:52:59 PM

and how about fpga that can follow whatever algo there is, and most people wont even be able to run FPGA

btc was first mined by cpu, then gpu killed cpu, then asic came, what most people dont know is that before asic came there was a short time of about 6months that a few people were mining with PFGA and beating the crap out of gpu miners, the people who used fpga to mine didnt let the public know about this because they had a huge advantage over gpu miners

fpga mining was only publicly announced that time when the fpga miners were selling theyr rigs because they lose to asics, so we fork and gpu mining is still dead because there are people here who has fpga and thus is promoting to go anti asic so that theyr fpga can continue to dominate over gpu miners

it already is a fact that gpu mining is dead, we only have to choose either fpga or asic

fpga, most people cant use due to high requirement of programming needed(vhdl and verilog, plus know some basic electronics, not to mention before you learn those vhdl and verilog you ahve to know other programs also), to buy you can buy direct from manufacturer, cost of 1 unit is high, good thing about it is you can transfer to whatever algo there is faster than devs can fork to a new 1(only if your a good fpga engr)

asics, plug n play, bad about asic is you stay with 1 algo(dont know how ai asics can be used in the future), can buy direct from manufacturers

so its just a matter of... we all learn how to program our own bitstreams for fpga or we use plug n play asics, btw there have been fpga mining on equihash even before asics came and they have been mining with fpga on equihash for a long time already most people just dont know

just to give some people an idea of how fpga performance is, take out asics in the picture, an fpga that was made 6years ago to mine btc compared to the best gpu we have now and mine btc, that fpga still wins by a mile and only runs on 40watts

You might want to read about PROG PoW algorithm. It effectively renders ASIC's "AND" FPGA's very close to an EVEN KEEL with GPU's in hash rate AND power consumption at [1.1 to 1] or [1.2 to 1]. Which is the MAIN reason I'm trying to encourage ZEN Developers to switch to PROG Proof of Work. The link below is a lot to read with discussion among developers but it's worth the read.

Once you've read it, you'll understand WHY we should be careful about making flat statements in this profession.

https://www.youtube.com/redirect?v=P6B-ZCyP6K8&event=video_description&redir_token=G389xORG81WgdiJnMOvC6W5qHSt8MTUzMTYzMDYzM0AxNTMxNTQ0MjMz&q=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FZcashFoundation%2FGrantProposals-2018Q2%2Fissues%2F15

have you heard of intel developing custom chips to become programmable? they just got eASIC and pouring resources from altera and intel to eASIC for that research

It's only a mini FPGA that would still be limited by the PROG PoW algorithm. As for how much of a ratio that would equate to when compared to GPU's remains to be seen.