Quote from: giantdragon on December 30, 2013, 04:04:10 AM

Quote from: Rassah on December 30, 2013, 03:48:33 AM

See, that is exactly what I'm talking about. People like Bill Gates, Sergey Brin, Steve Jobs, and others like them didn't have jobs, or capital to live off of, yet they live pretty damn well. Capitalism is not finding an employer and hoping he will give you a job. That's the sad brainwashing that you and many others were convinced of. Capitalism is creating wealth and trading it with others. If you can't find employers to give you a job, you be the employer. Sure, it's not easy, and is much more difficult to figure out than just having someone else tell you what to do and give you money for it, but it is way better than starving to death.

I think you understand that people like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are 0.000001% of the population, other will never repeat their success! For the remaining 99.999999% only one option to not to starve will be fighting, and they no doubt will fight if the economic model won't be adapted to post-labor era!

Those are just examples that can be quickly and easily used because they are famous, and they are famous because they are rich. Do you know my mechanic, Bard? He started out with nothing, now owns his own shop. He's modestly rich by most standards, but he makes a lousy example on the internet because you have never heard of him.

There is a huge spectrum between starving in the streets and Bill Gates. To get off of one end, you don't need to make it all the way to the other end. Most of the middle is very nice.