Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 30, 2013, 10:43:01 AM

Quote from: jinni on December 29, 2013, 09:18:05 PM

Quote from: hilariousandco on December 29, 2013, 03:43:14 PM

I saw an interesting video on Russia Today earlier that details all the puppet governments the US have helped instal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLE7Bswz9G8

The problem with that video is that the current Ukraine government is also a puppet government. But it is Russia's puppet not the US'. Don't think the Americans are the only ones playing this geopolitical game of puppet master.

At least the people in Ukraine elected Yanukovych. And he still enjoys widespread public support, although the Western media paints him as an oppressor.

Oppressive can be a finicky term, but is there any doubt that Yanukovych is rotten to the core? Though a government in Ukraine of any kind that is not mired in overt corruption is hard to imagine.

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On the otherhand, the US frequently invades other nations, overthrows the democratically elected governments there, and then install the ruler whom they like to rule.

Yes. This is true. I do not like US interference of the kind we saw in the video. But neither do I like Russian overt pressure to conform to the Russian trading block - hence reaffirming Ukraine's status a puppet of Russia.

As far as I can understand Ukraine is split about in the middle between the Western part that would like to lean towards the EU and the Eastern part that would like to lean towards Russia.

The EU has only applied soft pressure, by offering a trade (and implied association deal) with Ukraine, whereas Russia is using Ukraine's reliance on Russian gas to force their hand. A deal with the EU would still leave the Ukraine free to deal with Russia, but a deal with Russia would not make the country free to deal with the EU.

As I said, I don't agree with what Washington is doing, but the Kremlin is just as bad...if not worse.