Quote from: DumbFruit on July 15, 2018, 11:14:44 PM

It doesn't really matter a whole lot, but imagine for a second that what Tradefortress has said is true and he was hacked, and is returning 5 years later to try to make amends to his customers, you come by asking everyone reveal the transactions implying that not only is Tradefortress is a fraud but we might be part of it.

I wasnt implying anything, I was seeking verification coins were being sent.

Quote from: DumbFruit on July 15, 2018, 11:14:44 PM

I expressed that I prefer it that way and you post the information anyway.
That's just real sweet of you.

I actually thought I was being polite by not posting the transaction links, amounts, source, etc., which is what I would normally do in these situations. I posted percentages to at least maintain some sort of record of what TradeFortress is doing.

Quote from: DumbFruit on July 15, 2018, 11:14:44 PM

Quote from: ibminer on July 15, 2018, 03:31:58 PM

And seriously, you should share the rest of your lessons learned, they will not be a bore and may help others.

Ya it worked out so well last time. Maybe this time you can post the name of the bank I use?

Posting lessons learned from being scammed seems different than what you did, which is I assume what you mean by "it worked out so well last time". < Which, again, I'm omitting to be polite.

Quote from: DumbFruit on July 15, 2018, 11:14:44 PM

Maybe, only he really knows. Though I've gotten far more returns in purchasing power than I ever hoped to gain by investing in Coinlenders. If I could guarantee the same results, I'd do it all over again. (Obviously it was still a bad idea, and would still be a bad idea.)

TradeFortress / Coinlenders mishandled your coins, whether you actually believe he was hacked or he stole them. Regardless, investing in them had nothing to do with Bitcoins value rising, which is where your new returns in purchasing power came from. Direct your happiness towards Bitcoin.

Quote from: DumbFruit on July 15, 2018, 11:14:44 PM

This is patronizing. I knew to be cynical back in 2013, and I especially know it now. It wouldn't have helped me then, and it's not helpful now. I know that's blunt, and I'm sure you have good intentions, but I wish if I could go back I could have given myself very different advice.

What is the advice? Im not sure how revealing this advice jeopardizes your bank name or personal information, but if it does, obviously, dont answer!

Quote from: DumbFruit on July 15, 2018, 11:14:44 PM

I don't disagree with you per se, but focusing on cynicism is guiding people toward looking at investing the wrong way. There's all kinds of ways you can still get burned even if you're cynical. That's what really grated on me when I read it.

I wasn't giving general investment advice. Regardless of who I am or how I tend to act, in this situation, being cynical towards anything TradeFortress says is the right advice.

Quote from: DumbFruit on July 15, 2018, 11:14:44 PM

Edit: Whatever. I should've just posted my own thoughts rather than being argumentative. I apologize.

No apologies necessary. We can agree to disagree on these points.