Quote from: Retty on July 16, 2018, 05:02:22 PM

Ok, this could be unpopular opinion but i'm speaking my mind here and i'm not out to cause trouble or start mud slinging here...but this NEEDS to be said!

As stated in the title Newbies are NOT the only problem here!

I posted last night here, as i usually do its quite long and detailed as thats how i write- i like to be thorough! Not to everyones taste, though other peoples writing style is not to mine either.

I hadn't been on here for well over a week and i can honestly hold my hand up and say that i had no idea a similar post to mine had been posted a few days before.

The response i got was and i quote: "These have been suggested before, and there was just a thread like two days ago with hilariousandco suggesting that there needs to be a merit requirement for the noob-->Jr. Member transition. Therefore, this thread is redundant and, in addition, it's way too wordy. Seems more like a merit-grab attempt than some actual concern from a member with 56 activity."

Now who said this is irrelevant, and i don't have a problem with them either, i'm merely using this as an example.

To me there are 4 totally unnecessary putdowns in this paragraph. Let me address them:

-Firstly it wasnt a "redundant" post, as there was additional info on there that wasn't covered (though i chose to lock the thread shortly after).
-It was classed as too wordy- well as i stated above i write the way i write and i can't please everyone- would you rather 'When Bitcoin moon' posts or someone who actually puts a little EFFORT into their posting behaviour?
- It was no "Merit grab" attempt, for what its worth i don't fish for Merit, if someone chooses to give it to me then thats their call, i'm really not bothered but can you honestly tell me why i would even need it when i don't even use the bounty section? Please don't assume you know me- you don't.
-Lastly the "actual concern from a member with 56 activity" REALLY? You bought Bitcoin before me so my opinion is irrelevant? Cheesy

The last statement to me implies utter contempt to 'newer' members and that anyone new here is of no importance. I'm sorry but i have as much right as anyone else to be here. Yes there are people who've been here longer than i and built this place to what it is, i just don't think it gives someone the right to be judge, jury and executioner just because you rank higher.

I'm only using this as an example of MANY other negative and quite often vindictive behaviour toward other members.

Man, every time one open a thread it is probably to have some bad quotes. This is a forum, so in here there are many minds, and confrontation is kind of normal. As long as you take it personal, you will suffer, and it is pointless, from my perspective.
I don't think you are a merit seeker, on the contrary, your posting behavior seems pretty healthy and honest to me, but this is just my opinion, and every one has the right of having one.
Regarding the answer you received, again, don't take it personal. As you said, you've been out for a while, and these kind of conversations have been the topic from the last couple of weeks, that's why it sounds redoundant.

Quote from: Retty on July 16, 2018, 05:02:22 PM

Particularly in the newbie section, i have seen many people shot down when they've posted something quite useful, cited by senior members for having been posted before, its not relevant or its a merit attempt. You have to remember there are hundreds of newbies EVERY DAY on here that probably aren't going to scroll through dozens of pages, so is it relevant- for a newbie yes, yes of course it is!

While i am all for constructive criticism, i don't think this helps in ANY WAY shape or form, it only serves to dissuade members from posting anything else in future in fear of being vilified or singled out.

I'm probably seen in the eyes of some as causing trouble here, but you couldn't be further from the truth. Its an open forum and i think we have every right to speak our minds- good or bad. It needs to be looked at and senior members should be ambassadors for the site...not executioners.

Probably you've missed some of the pathetic attempts we have had recently of receiving merits by copy/pasting other's work, something really usual both in here and the beginner's board. Anyway, again, don't take it personal, this is just a bunch of opinions, and this is pointless to give too much attention to the negative ones.

Quote from: jackg on July 16, 2018, 05:28:14 PM

Calling out noobs and having an issue with them because they're starting later then the rest of us doesn't really sound like a healthy attitude does it?

No, is not. Sometimes I've done it by myself (not calling someone a noob, but yes, some of them are so desperate to get merits that it makes me feel uncomfortable with them).
I think the forum is now in a bad shape and, also, one can have a bad day. Sometimes I got lost in between so many crappy posts that, by the moment I quote one, I'm not in the best mood. Of course this my fault only, but, well, it is a social place, so this kind of things happens.

But, yes, I do feel that encouraging is far better than insulting, but you know, sometimes it is not possible. Huh

Quote from: Retty on July 16, 2018, 05:44:15 PM

If people want to confuse my enthusiasm for something else then thats their problem i guess. Roll Eyes

Totally.