Quote from: malvino on December 31, 2013, 09:58:57 AM

Explain me please what is "on time". When you put in the terms "ships in November" what does it mean? December, 2014, 2015?

I believe everyone understood that waldohoover was purchasing a HashFast miner. Everyone also understood that waldohoover was not the manufacturer. What he echoed in the posting was the manufacturer's claimed shipping date; there should be no misunderstanding on that. If you want to know the time after which the shipment is considered late and subject to a refund, then one had to consult HashFast or just ask waldohoover. Did you ask about this when you purchased shares? I'd guess you didn't. Given what BFL did to so many people, I would think you might want to ask about that. In any case, the date after which the miner was considered "refundable" was apparently December 31 and that was likely published on HashFast's web site.
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Quote from: malvino on December 31, 2013, 09:58:57 AM

This is not a game. We're not some friends that put money together to buy beers. This is a business, Waldo is earning money with that and also we want. And when you make a share buy you know there are some risks. And the most important thing is that there are terms that must be fulfilled. I read the terms and if I agree I put money there. If you read them carefully you'll see were are right. Maybe it was Waldo mistake not make them clear, but that's not our fault. I asked him several times to give me an argument that shows I'm wrong, with no answer (oh, yes, there was an answer: wait till December 31st)

I agree it's not a game, but I think you're barking at the wrong person. You should be upset with HastFast, not waldohoover. He clearly stated he cannot be responsible for the failure of the manufacturer to deliver. And, indeed, they did fail to deliver. So if you put in 10 BTC or so, you lost a lot of potential revenue. Had you held that 10 BTC, it might be work US$7200K today. Had HashFast delivered as they advertised, you might have been able to earn 10 BTC (or more) through mining.

The problem is quite simply that HashFast failed to deliver, and rather spectacularly so. Had you put your money into BTC, stocks, or a different miner that did deliver on time, you likely would have made money. I can fully appreciate you being upset with the fact that you lost the profit potential, but this is not waldohoover's fault.