Quote from: DooMAD on July 17, 2018, 09:23:47 PM

Quote from: aliashraf on July 17, 2018, 06:07:45 AM

Projecting problems to the second layer, stacking up protocols on protocols leads to nowhere other than ruining bitcoin, turning it to something it was not meant to be.

I thought you were of the opinion that Bitcoin was already ruined because of numerous other reasons. You don't like the ASICs, you don't like mining pools, you don't like Lightning. Is there any part of Bitcoin you do like? Just about all the changes you would implement if it were up to you simply aren't compatible with the software everyone else on the network is running. It doesn't look like you're going to find what you desire here. At some point you might stop to consider why you're actually following this chain if it's such a lost cause in your lofty opinion.

What's this, you are a stucker?
Remain focused on the subject if you don't mind.

My argument: Projecting scalability to second layer protocols, is cheap practice. It abstracts users from real bitcoin and contradicts with most canonical feature of bitcoin: being public. Period.

As of my opinions about ASICs and pools as the centralization gredients in bitcoin, I have rights to maintain my concerns about this topics and you and your friends have not patented bitcoin (yet) so, I keep discussing this subjects and trying to convince people to commit and contribute in improving bitcoin, whether you guys like it or not.