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Re: wow, bitcoin's astro birth chart is full on!
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sturle
on 31/12/2013, 22:28:02 UTC
Really.  What is a proof to you then?  I'm sure there are Nobel prices waiting for people who can find better ways to prove something.
If you believe science proves anything in the positive you are in the minority.  Science is generally considered to only proves things in the negative.
That's the whole point of it.  A scientific hypothesis is required to be testable.  This usually means falsifiable.  If the test fails, the hypothesis has been proven to be false.  So far every scientific hypothesis claiming astrology to work has been proven false.  Astrology has been proven wrong in every thinkable way.

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So it would seem your beliefs about science are different from the mainstream.
No.

As a more mainstream scientist, I ask you: Can you prove false the hypothesis that the relative positions of the nearby heavenly bodies influence our thoughts and actions?  Evidence that it does has been presented, we await your evidence.
I haven't seen any evidence that it does.  Please give just one real peer-reviewed scientific article which shows this, and which has been successfully replicated by others.  Your hypothesis is useless btw, because it isn't testable.

There is absolutely no indication whatsoever that nearby or far away have any influence whatsoever on people other than the occasional hobby astronomer who stays up late to photograph Saturn or Jupiter. There is even scribblings about Pluto here, and the thousands of satellites moving around Earth at have far higher gravitational and electromagnetic influence on earthlings than Pluto!  It is easier to find a geostationary satellite with a small telescope than spotting Pluto on the sky.  If you keep your eyes on the sky you will see the satellites in polar orbits passing by all the time using only your naked eye.  Let us start with a very simple task: Find a peer reviewed scientific article showing evidence that the position of Pluto in the sky influence life on Earth in any meaningful way.

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You don't have any, because this hypothesis falls outside the realm of science at this point in time.
I don't have any because it isn't a hypothesis.  It is nothing but a nonsensical claim.

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We may one day be able to move people to different planets, which would enable a real study.  But our current technology does not allow us to conduct the experiments necessary to falsify astrology.  As such, the tools of science can be applied to study correlations, but no proof can be had.
Eh?  There are plenty of ways to test astrology on Earth.  If the positions of planets had any influence on e.g. the bitcoin market, you could easily write a bot using astrology to do better than the market.  This would be easily testable by others, and a great way to test if astrology influence the bitcoin market or not.  If it works and can be replicated, it would serve as a good proof that planets have an influence.  Just an example.

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Clinging to the idea that you if you can't prove it, then it is not real is very dogmatic.  I used to be the same when I was a teenager, but then I opened my mind and found a much bigger world.
When there is no indication whatsoever that it is real, it is very dogmatic to believe in it.  I used to think astrology could work until I became a teenager and opened my mind to the scientific method.