Quote from: VinceSamios on January 02, 2014, 01:00:18 PM

Quote from: Subcide on January 02, 2014, 12:24:53 PM

We're not in the world of normal shares, and in that world, having your shares non-tradeable for nearly an entire quarter would not only be unacceptable, but pretty catastrophic from a business perspective I'm sure (has this ever happened? I have no idea).

Pre-IPO this is exactly what happens, but arguably without the requirements on reporting. Since we all invested in ActM at the startup stage we should consider ourselves pre-IPO startup investors.

Quote from: JoTheKhan on January 02, 2014, 11:51:01 AM

This man owns 60% of a company's profit that we put the money in for.
No one needs to defend him, he needs to answer questions about the core business and shareholder concerns. It doesn't matter if it is the holidays or not.

First up, the first 0.0025 dividends go to shareholders only, so he owns 0% of that (or however many shares he's personally bought)

Secondly, being so unreasonable about somebodies holidays is deplorable. Everyone deserves a break especially considering all the little tantrum-ing children in here.

Thirdly Ken has to be careful about how he provides investors with information since he is already dancing on a fine line on thin ice with the SEC - as such he can't just answer questions willy nilly as it might be deemed to give certain shareholders an advantage.

Finally - it may not be in the companies (and by extension the shareholders) best interests for shares to be tradable at this stage. My personal view is ActM is better off NOT listing shares on another exchange, and making all share transfers private exchanges negotiated and executed between two individuals with only administrative help from the company. This is how most un-listed companies work, and its perfectly legal.

Anybody who expected anything new between christmas and new years day is a fucking ignorant tool.

Me out.

You have completely discredited yourself.

"It may not be in the companies best interest for shares to be tradeable at this stage."? This is by far the dumbest thing I've read on this forum. I hope no one takes anything this man says seriously after this.

"Anybody who expected anything new between ~~christmas~~ November and ~~new years day~~ January is a ~~fucking ignorant tool~~ rational person" You tell me what has changed between November and January and I'll let you slide on this very unintelligent comment of yours."

You are by far the most misguided person on this forum. You defend Ken as if he can't answer for himself. Do not give the man excuses, he has had 3 months to think them up. He needs to answer for our share situation and elaborate on our equipment situation. If you don't think this is the case then you are the "fucking ignorant tool"

"First up, the first 0.0025 dividends go to shareholders only, so he owns 0% of that (or however many shares he's personally bought)"

If as long we don't have access to shares, and we don't have access to any company information then Ken owns everything. We don't have shit. .0025? Half of you guys thinking hes secretly mining on Eligius right now anyways. He seems to be paying himself too, I think hes made more money off ACTM so far than anyone else.

PS Please take a moment and read what I posted. It is very common for people on here to completely ignore what I post and try to explain some very WRONG misconception they have.