Quote from: eternalgloom on July 23, 2018, 06:18:58 PM

I'm not going to quote and respond to every single one of you, but let me say that you have the wrong idea on what I'm trying to achieve here.
Look, those people need basic necessities in the first place, that can be achieved through simple donations, as I proposed.

Now I see your arguments about teaching them how to earn their own money, and I fully agree with that as well!

That's why I've reached out to some Venezuelans on Steemit, who are looking to set up an initiative there.
Check the top comment on my most recent Steemit post: https://steemit.com/crypto/@daan/nano-community-donates-over-300-kg-660-lbs-of-food-to-venezuelans

Leave your political talk out of this discussion please. Just for the record, I'm not even a socialist.

Quote from: KingScorpio on July 23, 2018, 03:26:54 PM

Quote from: buwaytress on July 23, 2018, 03:21:15 PM

@OP Actually, someone from my team has reached out to that redditor, I'll let you know if there's a response. So far nothing yet.

@KingScorpio I don't think OP is deluded with visions of saving humanity. Of course there's a bigger underlying issue to solve, and perhaps whatever is going on with Bitcoin in Venezuela may not solve problems, but it's undeniable that there are some roles that can be played (and already played) to alleviate some of the money problems there.

Some people want to change the world, that's fine. Others just want to lend a helping hand. If Bitcoin's the vehicle, then why not? At least they're trying.

those families need an income source not bitcoins, whats the use giving them some bitcoins?

God damn it dude, due to hyperinflation, their regular income isn't worth anything. Those few Bitcoin donations could mean an entire month's worth of food, enough to give them time to work out another solution.

you guys are so damn stupid, from a socioeconomic consideration, its actually funny observing you noobs argueing about how extinguish a fire with obvious oil....

but i have no time to discuss the larger detailed issues,

mark my words, you noobs will fail. because you think to egoistic to limited, there are reasons why the venezuelan currency is low value, and there are foundations that are very thin in venezuela that makes the people be able to mine bitcoin in the first place. bitcoin is not capable solving core socioeconomic issues, its only capable to be unreachable by the banking cartels. to reduce their influence. bitcoin is just a ram coin against banking cartels in the developed world, and their license inquisition, nothing more, it has from a humanist perspective not the capability to develop upkeep and sustainably protect socioeconomic structures. which the venezuelans simply have to develop if they want to be wealthier, this is the core problem and it cant be solved with bitcoin.

today maybe 90 out of 100 venezuelans have electricity and internet, if they start mining bitcoin 85 of 90 will lose their socialist provided infrastructure, making 85 of them basically without even electricity while only 5 where capable to somehow develop install and upkeep the computation power to pay the infrastructure worker in bitcoin which he then converts to us dollar, or other hard currencies.

besides a huge crime and corruption which will then make those "bitcoin miners" among venezuelans like a crime syndicate you wont be able to solve sustainable social issues you will create even more.

but go on i dont care, the sooner you drive against the wall the sooner people will cry for reasonable solutions as alternative. venezuelans will end up even poorer running after bitcoins, their next currency then wont be electronic it will be stones or metal, if thy are lucky still with numbers and text on it.

regards