Quote from: jbreher on July 27, 2018, 05:55:58 PM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on July 27, 2018, 05:08:58 AM

Quote from: jbreher on July 26, 2018, 06:54:07 AM

No. I never claimed that "only miners should run nodes".

I never said you did. But maybe I assumed that you agreed with it because you support Roger Ver, Craig Wright, and Bitcoin Cash.

You know what I find hilarious? The apparent OCD need that small blockers have to insert personalities such as Roger and Craig (and the other favorite boogieman, whom you missed - Jihan) into every conversation about Bitcoin Cash. I do not 'support' such personalities. Their existence is completely irrelevant to my 'support' of Bitcoin Cash, which I support for its superior properties.

Just. Get. Over. It.

I know, and I'm sorry. It is maybe because of Bitcoin Cash's history of being closely related to Roger Ver and Jihan Wu. Some Bitcoiners also believe that they control Bitcoin Cash. Personally, I give their community the benefit of the doubt.

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Sorry. But do you believe that only miners should run full nodes?

No. I believe that nobody should be barred from running non-mining validators. As an example, I am not a miner, and I run a non-mining validator. Several actually. But I am not laboring under any false pretense that my running of these non-mining validators brings any benefit to the Bitcoin network. They might benefit me as an end user in my ability to transact purely permissionlessly, but they do nothing for the network as a whole.

Yes but it also benefits you by having a "voice" in the network. I know you would argue against the success of the USAF and NO2X, but they are two examples of having a voice and acting on it by running thr node.

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And again, you have not answered the question:

Why do you think non-mining validator count has any bearing on a measurement of 'economic majority'?

Because it gives the economic majority, merchants, exchanges and users all together to enforce the rules of the network.

Do you believe you have answered the question with the statement above? Because you have not. I don't know whether you are being intentionally obtuse, or if you are just suffering some cognitive dissonance. Let me try again. There is a concept of 'economic power' it is measured in actual holdings of Bitcoin (whether BTC or BCH as appropriate per network) - fundamentally, after stripping away all the bullshit, this is a scalar quantity. There is also an absolute count of the number of non-mining validators - another integer. The question is: Why do you think that knowledge of the integer number of non-mining validators has anything whatsoever to do with the integer that is a measure of economic power?

Are we talking about representation of the economic majority by running full nodes or economic power? But even "economic power measured in actual holdings" cannot over-power the economic majority as the failure of the NYA has shown, correct?