Quote from: icroatt on July 27, 2018, 09:20:47 PM

Quote from: Zalaster on July 27, 2018, 08:52:44 AM

Quote from: icroatt on July 27, 2018, 06:14:24 AM

Quote from: target on July 27, 2018, 05:16:52 AM

Quote from: icroatt on July 24, 2018, 03:28:49 PM

Quote from: Zalaster on July 24, 2018, 02:31:31 PM

Guys, before you start participating in this ICO, just read this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4736956.msg42780471#msg42780471
Manager, how can you explain this?

That person is a troll and the thread has been reported. He has been trolling under two different names on all GraphenTech posts. The account is a newbie and has an activity of two, his other account has -3 trust and is also a newbie. The other account goes by the name Arthur

Doesn't look like a troll to me. Can you confirm that Raul Molino isn't part of the team? That guy has a proof Raul was the first CEO of it and even took a screenshot for it. He is also part of the linkedin company created by the team, hows that for a proof. Seem a concrete evidence. Raul had successfully scammed before so someone has to ask this in telegram.

Here is an article from El Universo, the largest news aggregate in Ecuador, stating that Red Tech and Raul Molina did NOT scam anyone out of anything. El Universo even rectified all misinformation and cleared up the entire situation. Its written in Spanish, naturally.

Article: https://www.eluniverso.com/noticias/2017/02/23/nota/6060286/nota-direccion

The rumor continues to be perpetuated by two people on BitcoinTalk, including the one above. If you look at the accusations on any forums or sites, they are usually done by exact same two people. The trolling became so much that Raul stepped back from the project itself.

P.S. The news site that Zalaster quotes is a tiny media outlet in Ecuador called Vistazo, with an Alexa website traffic rank of 80000 (poor). This rectification, on the other hand, was published by El Universo, which is again, the largest news aggregate in Ecuador. El Universo has an Alexa website traffic rank of 1,988 (Great).

Raul Molina was hidden as a member of the team, but that's it!! It does not matter where the article was published, who wrote what was justified - it was not presented to potential investors !!! What are the reasons?? Is this correct?

He stepped down from his position on the team amidst trolling to not hurt the image of the company, seems justifiable to me. Brock Pierce did the same thing on the EOS team amidst former allegations (none of which were proven true) and trolling. Does that make EOS bad? No.

If a whole bunch of news aggregates clear his name and say there is no evidence of foul play, that's proof enough for me.

I don't know you guys, but the funny thing is that the link that icroatt provided as a proof, is dated February 23th, 2017, even you can see the date on the link. That article was posted 9 days after Raul Molina signed the contract on February 14th,2017, way before someone noticed that Raul Molina was a SCAMMER. We are now in 2018, and the scam accusations are made now. That article that icroatt pointed out, was sent by a RedTech employee on RedTech's behalf and RedTech's right to a counter-response, and it's not an article written by the newspaper, nor written by any of their journalists, it's just a text that tries to excuse the official announcement made by HP and Tesla where they denied their relationship with Molina and RedTech. Even in that article, Molina made a mistake, he claimed that he was in the US visiting some Tesla opening store event in Washington on February 2nd 2017, invited by Elon Musk himself, but the invitation was just a newsletter sent to all subscribers, and even so, Raul Molina wasn't in US, he was in Ecuador trying to organize the presentation scheduled on Yachay, here is the link to the Twitter investigation account @RedTechLeaks and they proof it with documents and a whatsapp chat between Raul Molina and some employee, just translate the 6 tweets: https://twitter.com/RedTechLeaks/status/1003636264871047169

I found this updated article dated September 14th 2017, from the same news media 'El Universo', and as icroatt said "which is again, the largest news aggregate in Ecuador" in which they interviewed the new Yachay's manager, he stated that RedTech was fake, if you missed it icroatt, here is the link: https://www.eluniverso.com/noticias/2017/09/14/nota/6380209/resulta-que-todo-se-hizo-reves-se-tiene-que-rectificar

The RedTech employees abandoned the project due to lack of payment and lack of Raul Molina's experience and managing, and because Molina was trying to building a complete car in 1 month, according to this document exposed on this website: http://graphentech-scam.com/Raul-Molina-The-Main-Scammer.html , document sent to Molina on March 21th,2017 in which you can see the names of every person involved (I guess if you search for the names you can ask them about RedTech and Raul Molina and see what they have to say). RedTech was exposed as SCAM around July/August when all the buzz started. Finally on January 30th,2018 the journal magazine Vistazo among others printed newspapers, published this article about the SCAM: http://www.vistazo.com/seccion/pais/politica-nacional/cronica-de-una-farsa-anunciada-carros-electricos-en-yachay, and remember is dated January 30th 2018

Here you can find more articles on these links, which the one above and the next one are from the interview made to Justin Perry, the manager of RedTech at that time: www.vistazo.com/seccion/entrevistas/me-arrepiento-de-no-haber-cancelado-esta-payasada

Here HP denied any participation or sponsorship with Raul Molina and RedTech: http://www.vistazo.com/seccion/pais-actualidad-nacional/actualidad-nacional/proyecto-red-tech-yachay-hp-inc-desmiente-ser

Here is the link to Tesla Forum, denying any relationship and patent sharing with Raul Molina and RedTech: https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/tesla-has-some-agreement-yachay-ep-and-company-redtech

Here you can find other article about Tesla denying any partnership with Raul Molina and RedTech: https://4pelagatos.com/2017/02/16/tesla-niega-estar-vinculada-con-la-farsa-de-yachay/

Here is a link to a Twitter account @RedTechLeaks that shows evidence of the RedTech scam in its full glory: https://twitter.com/redtechleaks?lang=en

Here is a youtube video showing what Raul Molina did at Yachay with his $3000 USD million electric car "megafactory", obviously he didn't gathered the funds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if0ZZkVSs6E

BTW, I'm not related to those sites or know who they are, nor I know who is Raul Molina more than his picture, but I investigate just a little, and as you can see, all those links were flashing on my screen after 2 minutes Google search. In the same way, why there is no evidence of what graphentech claims to have as patents, graphene distribution, propietary technology, or labs, after I searched on Google for more than 2 hours?

@icroatt, Do you really posted an article way before the RedTech SCAM failure came to light to defend Raul Molina, just only 9 days, February 23 2017, after the contract was signed as proof of innocence? I think a good proof of the SCAM is that non of the employees at the time of RedTech have something good to say about Molina, not even some actual employees.

Can you answer this: if Raul Molina is not a Scammer, what happened with the $3000 USD millions that supposedly RedTech will invest in the electric car "megafactory" in Ecuador? You have the link above to a youtube video of what Molina achieved as proof.

Why is he hiding instead of showing evidence of innocence?

And more important, why there's no evidence of graphentech's patents or graphene process as claimed on the graphentech website?
- Why are in the team Raul Pazos Medina and Frank Vargas, which both are related to Ponzi Scheme scams and both are well known scammers?
- Why Raul Molina hide himself after just 2 people (as you claimed) started to post warning, is it because Raul Molina has something to hide?
- Why are you promoting graphentech through fake tweeter and fb accounts like this 2 examples: https://www.facebook.com/ilyha44/posts/147950666105334 / https://twitter.com/Trump13947411/status/1023125979701624832 which contains the unautorized use of a picture of actress Marie Avgeropoulos?
- I mean, creating fake profiles and manipulate sale information is not a SCAM this days? Apart of all the other strong evidence against Raul Molina and graphentech?
- Why Raul Molina sent pictures of the Opel Ampera Propulsion System Concept image and claimed as his own creation? Link is here: http://www.graphentech-scam.com/Meanwhile-In-Redtech-Headquarters.html
- Raul Molina is lying about a lot of things, why someone should believe him in this one when there are a lot of proven lies made by Molina?

A lot of the links given here are in English, with evidence, but you posted a link with an outdated article written by Molina's employee (Juan Fernando Madera). I think your your false proof was dismissed with the newer article posted on the same newspaper that, in your own words, "has an Alexa website traffic rank of 1,988 (Great)"

Those questions have no answer, you know that, it looks from every angle that graphentech is a scam.

There's no answer to what user iqbalnr asked on the graphentech thread: "why does not divowok answer people who say this SCAM? are you no reason because this is a SCAM project? if this is not a SCAM please clarify the words of those who have strong evidence"

Also see this 2 new articles:
http://graphentech-scam.com/We-Produce-Graphene-In-Bathtubs.html

http://graphentech-scam.com/Now-you-see-me-Now-you-dont.html

All of this is a big rock solid proof enough for me.